Fallout 76

No Fatshark like many other smaller studios (Coffee Stain for example) make great games and cannot even be put remotely into the category where Bethesda decided to go. And EA with killing off great studios is extending rock bottom of the scale where previously only insignificant cheap low effort cash grabs went.

Fatshark may be on the decline at the moment from the standart late V1 achived but this is only the 2nd installment of their first great game and were not at pay2win/payed mods/rerelease Skyrim or Fallout cash grab lvl.

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I think it was about 5$ per cash crab but it get’s cheaper if you buy the more expensive ingame money “DLC”.
Maybe @anon26183726 can tell us how much the preorder collector edition was/is.

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Can’t say for the preorder, but the Power Armor edition (which included the nylon bag falsely advertised as canvas) was and is a HUMBLE 200$.

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Well officially its so bad… Bethesda might shut down the Fallout franchise after this debacle. The corporations think in terms of profits and growth and if they ruined the franchise they have to own it. Not the first time a gaming company has ruined a good stable Brand. I don’t see how they can justify a new Fallout game after this.

Remember what happened to Duke Nukem. What a great game the OG Duke Nukem was. And what toiletware Duke Nukem Forever turned out to be. Then that was the death of Duke Nukem. Many great brands disappeared because the new entries failed. Not the first time and not the last time either

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Bethesda always had some huge level of forgiveness and goodwill from the players because in Oblivion and Skyrim (And New Vegas, although that’s like some bastard child as it was made by someone else) They were groundbreaking.

Since Fallout 4 they’ve stopped being groundbreaking market-leaders and are mixing it with other companies. Bethesda have always been SINGLE PLAYER RPG open world cutting edge games, and we forgave the bugs because everything else was so damn good.

Enter Witcher 3.

So the title of the best open world RPG is no longer Bethesda’s, and they need to diversify to continue their income stream. I get it. I really do.

But to launch a product that is so bad you have a legal company who specialise in Class actions against companies who deliver shoddy products building a case against you, and for THAT legal companies website to crash because of the overwhelming response from players who were unequivocally denied a refund then I’m sorry Bethesda, you’ve spectacularly buried one of your key franchises.

As for the future of Elder Scrolls?

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Dude I also play Skyrim VR (as I have a VR rig as well… oculus rift) and man is it AWESOME.

Different subject though but Elder Scrolls new entry is going to come along. They announced it officially. This isnt a dead franchise yet.

I’m sure it’s great, but players have been burned by Fallout 4 being lack lustre, and fallout 76 downright belonging in a toilet, the sales of TES VI are quite likely to suffer. I won’t be buying it straight away, whereas before I just handed over my money.

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they are denying my refund, so they already lost one who bought everything since fallout.

There are things worse than death. Just look at what has become of Diablo.

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Oh I know. Netease sh-tfu_k developers mobile game.

The asians must be all so super excited to spend 39.99$ every day for a 1% chance at legendary item drops.

Elder Scrolls isn’t dead, not yet.

The expectation from players is going down, and therefore the price point is going to be a big issue for many (a lot will wait it out after launch, see if it blows, get it on a steam sale) which means forecast income will take a bit of a wallop.

I’m not suggesting Beth are suddenly going to bury TES franchise, but before Fallout 4 I’d have said they weren’t going to bury the Fallout Franchise… so…

AND with Projekt Red releasing Cyberpunk soon, it’ll be another kidney punch for Bethesda from one of their key competitors.

in short, TESVI needs to be mindbogglingly brilliant to rescue their ailing reputation, and I suspect they won’t have even bothered to fix the comedy physics prevalent in TES games. Goodwill and forgiveness from the playerbase are long-gone now. Time to deliver something spectacular.

Of course, Bethesda could always do a FF XIV and PULL THE GAME Fallout76 back into development OR give refunds and make it FTP. Good luck with that.

This is my favorite meme of all time.

Also in regards to the op it’s just Bethesda as usual, but since they went mmo it’s a different ball game and mods can’t save them as usual! I mean when Skyrim came out it was a goddamn train wreck of potential and moders brought it to a shine.

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I love this movie and its soundtrack.

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I believe they announced test was being built on the same platform/engine that fallout76 is. That’s pretty much like having one foot in the grave. Best we can hope is that it’s a deadite

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Yes they said they would do the next elder scrolls game and another one (something stellar) with the same engine as Skyrim. Because that’s what Fallout 76 and Fallout 4’s engine is: Skyrim’s engine with visual effects that consume much more power combined with a lot more bugs.
There is more than payed mods responsible for people not playing the enhanced edition over normal Skyrim because it isn’t “enhanced” it’s a downgrade for performance and mod compatibility.

So it would be better if they actually did it with the 2011 engine and not with the extra bug pile.
If they actually do it with the F76 modification I cannot see this game having even a chance to be good.

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Honestly if Bethesda could get Havok physics integrated properly, and ditch the papyrus scripting in favour of something robust that can handle a lot of NPC action through script, then the actual Creation Engine might not be that bad.

Currently, Havok is badly implemented(there’s literally hundreds of games using Havok Physics that have zero problems) and the script basically has some kind of episodic breakdown whenever it is asked to do too much.

Surely Bethesda can spare a couple of quid to get a new, state of the art engine? Or at least pay someone to get Havok working properly?

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This actually saved XIV. The 2nd release was amazing, and don’t get me wrong, people were annoyed it took them another year, but they wanted the game done right. I was one of the people there for the early access with all my friends xD So many people were waiting to play that they actually stopped selling the game because their servers couldn’t handle it. Can you imagine a gaming company doing that today? Stop selling their game until they fix the problem lol. Anyway, I think the game has around 14 million players now, getting close to WoW.

14 million would be more than WoWs peak back in 2008. Doubt it’s got more than 5 mil atm.

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