Eviscerator Size

I agree for sure, it would look way cooler being a lot bigger

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For sure… unfortunately the current version of it doesnt seem to align with the warhammer universe :frowning: it seems like the idea was that it was just a big chainsaw rather then a unique and independent weapon…

personally I hope they make a evisorator like the MkIV chainsword moveset because the current moveset I dislike, it doesnt mean the weapon is bad. I just want a different variant for moveset sake.

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Me seeing the eviscerator for the first time being a Sisters player with Repentia in my army

ā€œmy disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruinedā€

More seriously though I agree, it needs to be at least a little bit bigger, what we have now should just be a different MK of the chainsword

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Here I was loving the fact that the eviscerator was appropriately sized for a longsword.

yeah the eviscerator needs to be made larger, in fact both chain swords need to be a bit bigger.

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Definitely in all honesty they should make the chainsaw the eviscerator and completely re-do the eviscerator.

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Yeah, the basic chainsword looks a bit small, and I didn’t realise my Zealot-playing friend was using an eviscerator in the loading screen until he mentioned it because the weapon didn’t look right.

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And while at it, might as well make its attack chain more practical.
Cutting the diagonal attack (or both diagonal and horizontal if the push attack is just given a followup chain horizontal) and making the 2nd heavy the same horizontal as the push so that the only reasonable attack pattern isnt ā€œpush attack, heavy, repeatā€ (and the rev already works as a the true heavy vs armor and elites so its not like there is a need for a bad version of a vertical on heavy).

What do you mean nonexistant weapon?!

Also I’m sort of ok with its size in game. There’s a lot more changes i’d like to see before worrying about this.

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hilarious… theres not once in warhammer lore table top or art that ive ever actually questioned whether something is an eviscerator or a chainsword… yet in this game I question if the eviscerator is even the same size as a 1 hand chainsword from warhammer.

I’ll say that it not only looks too short, it feels like the effective reach is deceptively short, too. Especially on the heavy swings, it certainly feels like it’s reaching out shorter than some other weapons, and certainly shorter than it should.

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I really agree with this. Especially compared to the design of the bolter, the huge size and chunky shape really sell it, chainswords should be the same.

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:smirk: :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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I am just glad the Eciscerator is great to play in Darktide!

Still, it needs to be fixed after the other pressing issues (shared inventory, crafting, bugs, …) are done!

Good post and great thread!

This. Evi can shred throug a tank armor or wall, it shouldn’t stuck in a cannon fodder mobs.

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This is one of the only chain weapons that feels like it works.

That said, it being shorter isn’t… well… I feel like I need to point out that a longsword in the English style had the same blade as a regular sword, but more grip. This wasn’t true for the Germans, but it was for the English.

You basically have your gladius, your regular 1h sword, your bastardsword, your longsword, and your greatsword.

The last is really more like a polearm then a sword.

All things considered though, really want to see the chain weapons buffed, so much so I wrote a small library on it over here.

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This is so inaccurate that it’s not even funny. If you think longswords come in only one size per country, you are incredibly mistaken. If you think the gladus and the longsword existed at the same time, I don’t even know where to begin.

Last but not least, that has absolutely no bearing whatsoever on the size of things in the 40K universe.

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Sorry you didn’t know.

Seems the idea of the shorter blade, bigger grip, was to be able to leave the bind without a step. There’s lot of examples of ā€˜lots of handle, less blade’ in the world though. A shorter blade but a lot of handle has a fair number of leverage advantages. But it loses a lot of options as well that depend on reach.

Still, that’s what the evis in game looks like to me. An Astartes single hand chainsword with more grip for use by a regular human.

Eh, bit of a follow up, the English style tended to be more interested in leaving the bind without the need to take a step, and is well documented in Paradoxes of Defense and brief instructions by George Silver. He’s not alone but he’s the most famous.

Whereas the German style is dominated by counter attacks with opposition, which is to say being able to intercept the other fellow’s blade while still having the reach to hit him in the same movement.

If you’re interested in actually learning about national styles, not outliers but the actual reasons this or that group preferred a particular setup because it fit with the style of martial art they were practicing, George Silver is your man for England, and there’s maybe 20 books in the Liechtenauer system in what is today Germany.

Silver’s direction to get the length of your ā€˜short’ sword, (Which we would call a one handed sword) was to hold it at your side across your body so your left hand could move your dagger past the tip. Your Longsword, (in the English style) was the same blade length exactly, but with room on the grip for both hands.

Wouldn’t be good enough to do the eight windings in the Liechtenauer system.

I’d direct you to the article in SPADA 1, ā€œCounterattacks with Opposition, The Influence of weapon formā€ by Stephan Hand, if you would like to know more on why weapon lengths evolve with specific styles. * ISBN-10 ā€ : ā€Ž 1891448374 * ISBN-13 ā€ : ā€Ž 978-1891448379

And I’d also caution you about saying something is ā€œThis is so inaccurate that it’s not even funny.ā€ casually, as someone might reply with ISBN numbers and illustrations from 1599.