Why is the Eviscerator worse than a basic axe, and a basic sword? No one wants to play a 40k game with a basic sword or a basic axe.
It’s stupid. Your weapon design is stupid. Those weapons shouldn’t even be in this game.
I knew this game was in trouble when I first saw 3 versions of “boring basic sword” and “boring basic axe.” It’s ridiculous.
You know the Eviscerator is an iconic weapon amongst the Ecclesiarchy right? Of course you don’t. Same with the Flamer. “Hurrr Durrr weapon balance.” No one wants that, we want cool 40k stuff. “Basic sword” is in every other game - this is 40k.
You nerfed the Flamer and you made the Eviscerator slow and weak, so we can run around with “basic sword” and what is essentially an Uzi smg? Are you trolling?
You know this is a 40k game right? Didn’t you ask Dan Abnett?
Of course you didn’t, you were too busy attending Monetization meetings.
Well hey here’s a monetization bullet point for you, I spent over $100 bucks on VT2, I spent $100 on Magic the Gathering Arena last week alone…
I spent Jack Diddly Squat on Darktide, and it’s gonna stay that way until you hire someone that understands what’s cool in video games.
Flamer is still strong but i think the ammunition nerfs were a touch overwrought.
Autopistol is busted and silly. It should always do less damage at any range than any autogun.
The heavy chainsword is a failure of a weapon, there is no eviscerator in darktide.
Imagine when Space Marine 2 releases and the protagonist’s Chain Sword is one of the weaker weapons, and he actually does more DPS with his side arms than he does with his iconic primary weapons or what if they gave him better protection when he’s running around in his skivvies than in Terminator Dreadnought armor. Wonder how people might react
Eviscerator, or heavy chainsword as it should rightfully be called, only needs a slight increase in cleave damage to help clear out hordes a bit faster. Apart from that, it is a very decent weapon. It requires you to put much more effort into it than you would on a Caxe if you want it to perform well, but once you start to get the hang of it, you will realize it has some very interesting and unique benefits. Its attack patterns are complicated to learn and to use well, but it has the longest reach of all weapons in the game: you have to play around that. In the end, a FPS is all about positioning: once you know how to position correctly with this weapon, you are going to start liking it.
Also, the heavy 1 cleaving special revved attack is very good: it cleaves - like the ironhelm special - it has a long range, and it’s horizontal, which allows you to make a 360° to grab onto something and kill it, when in a pinch. The special attack of the other two chainweapons are very less forgiving. Also I advise you to play one with a high mobility stat (over 75) and take “rev it up” as your second blessing (“savage sweep” is mandatory) because, once again: positioning. All the shots you don’t take are shots that you miss. A popular choice is “rampage” but the 20% dmg increase is very underwhelming: I’m probably doing more than +20% overall damage with the mobility blessing than with this. Don’t put “rev it up” on a chainaxe or chainsword though, it doesn’t synergise well at all with their non cleaving revved attacks and feels weird
It makes perfect sense that low life rejects don’t get access to high end weaponry. They could “balance” it though by making chain and power weapons more expensive yet as powerful as lore demands - challengers need every weapon to be on the same power level…
I’m with you - that a boring pseudo medieval combat axe is the strongest available melee weapon despite chain and power weapons also being available is super annoying.
I’m a Vermintide 2 vet - Almost all weapons in that game have a useful niche, although some are still just better - which is fine by me.
It took years for the game to get to that state though.
Regarding low life rejects not getting access - that is represented perfectly by the weapon unlock progression, reaching higher “trust” levels to get the cooler things.
Problem is right now you work your way up to those new high tech things, and they’re inferior to the junk you’ve been using since wearing your prisoner pajamas. It’s just wrong.
Plus like I said, I don’t think anyone really wants to play a 40k game to run around with “basic sword” and “uzi smg.” As you noted perfectly it’s annoying, and for me immersion breaking.
It’s just not “cool,” and 40k is supposed to be cool.
This is maybe true. It was hands down my favorite weapon to use while leveling my first character primarily on Malice, and remained useful on Heresy back before we could choose our own blessings. However I want an Eviscerator to Eviscerate, not just be “useable” or “okay”.
I’ll be seriously disappointed if it, along with other chain weapons, aren’t the first weapons to get a buff/rework when FatShark eventually gets around to doing that again.
For the Eviscerator you basically pushed in using savage sweep as blessing. The weapon just does not comes close to the Antax MK V axe or the Rashad axe without it. With it, it is way better regarding the feel of it and horde clear.
Another tip, do not ref the weapon if you have any flak armour in a horde. The sword will get stuck on those and you get hit more often. I would go with rampage as second blessing.
Damage against Flak + damage against infested enemies as perks.
With those you are able to oneshot a flak on damation with either 6 martyr stacks or 5 stacks of Rising Conviction, if you headshot them.
It doesn’t come close to those weapons with it either. That doesn’t mean you can’t use it. It works ok. But its a joke that
A. 1 handed weapons heavily outpreform 2h weapons
B. An unmodified axe or sword is way better on every dimension than the heavy chainsword.
I’d also just like to add, its not just about how quickly you kill but the safety the weapon grants. The Eviscerator seems to be balanced like a heavy, high damage weapon, clunky and unwieldly but you get the sense that this is because of the damage and devastation it can unleash; unfortunately this is not the case. It hits pathetically soft in most cases.
For how slow and awkward the weapon can feel, it doesn’t reward the user appropriately. In contrast an Antax or Rashad and others can have similar (in most cases: superior) killing power, whether it in terms of trash or elites, whilst having better mobility, faster strikes (which translates to better reactionary options and survivability), higher dodge count, no rooting you or your camera in place and so on. Its pretty unfortunate really, I think Fatshark needs to either up the damage & cleave numbers (or modifiers), or just make it more agile and safe (personally, I’d prefer the former over the latter for the sake of playstyle diversity).
I have to agree that if you make 40k game where a SHOVEL is better choice than a freaking legendary EVISCERATOR (which is too dam small!!!) and where stupid Uzi is better weapon than HOLY FLAMER then you have no idea what 40k is.
“We want no cool cosmetics in-game, no sexy females, strict weapon balance and no power-fantasy!”
Yea, that ain’t the setting chief… that ain’t the setting.
So, I may be alone here… but I use an eviscerator on my preacher and I love it more than any other weapon for the zealot. It’s slow (faster with the low-health feat), but hits hard, has good cleave, and I can take out most specials/elites with a single heavy-activated swing. I’ll say the one-handed chainsword and chainaxe are some poo poo, but maybe I just got a great roll on my evisc which leaves me the odd one out.
