why? do you remember the last time you blocked intentionally with knife?
I think knife should just not have a block and ds only has a parry.
which probably still ends up as a buff due to less input resulting in less room for error
Yeah dreg ragers, and to make more time for my combat ability?
I think this conclussion is very silly
try dodging them sometimes
block is more often a byproduct of push
you think it’s silly because it’s correct; one button input for push attack would let it be spammed faster/more accurately. you are still in a blocking state during the push so knife gets to be even better at what it’s op at while losing basically nothing.
Ofc I do that, but when they’re accompanied by other threats (disablers, crushers) I can’t spend all my effective dodges just on the ragers, I gotta watch out for the overhead or net
Not every class is Hivescum with them dodges regenerating instantly
Uh huh…
well you weren’t blocking much with knife blocks.
pretty sure if you spend some points in impact you can even punch ragers, very little reason to block
yuh huh
timing your push attack to block during push is one of the basics of becoming a decent player, it’s a bit like gp in mh.
I mean I do
Twins, Captains, Dreg Ragers, these are valid targets to hold block on stuff like Auric or H40, especially if your combat blade is build around DoT or they come with other enemies that force you to save dodges
A melee with no blocking input but rather only a block window during a push attack (???) feels very weird and counter intuitive
Out of all things to complain about Knife, I wouldn’t put “can block like other weapons” near close to being a problem
even more reason to nerf that part
What if instead we address the big issue like armor pen or mobility…
you gonna nerf ogryn cleaver too?
Could You explain the correlation between Knife and Cleaver with my comment?
“What if instead we address the big issue like armor pen or mobility…” - you
“ or mobility…” - you
Yeah but I’m talking in the context of Combat Blade, that excells at both massively when compared to other weapons
Meanwhile Ogryn has weapons with better armor pen that aren’t considered OP, but doesn’t give them this much mobility
And Ogryn Cleaver doesn’t exceed at both of these either
ogryn cleaver is still one of the fastest movespeed in game
nerf knife mobility, or rather either mobilty or armor damage with uncanny, and there would be no point to picking it(DS exists)
Clearly the most important thing is to nerf DS and then see where knife’s at.
But it doesn’t have armor pen, this it’s not an issue
I think it should be obvious to absolutely everyone that we want DS nerfed considerably, and Knife nerfed just to a lesser degree
Am I explaining myself right? Because I feel this is too obvious to need to point out
Wdym “see” we already know it’s OP
This was the meta melee before DS got added to Zealot/Vet
see where it’s at in relation to nerfed DS
speedrunners always use knife, with ds you can still rush fairly and stuff, but knife simply outruns everything better zooming in
so clearly you should only focus on nerfing DS first because it’s the first in line alongside crutchsword
It’s all that arse! Pogryn is dummy thicc.
It’s a rather strange “meta” as you rarely see veteran using CB in Auric for example.
EDIT:
Not to mention Zealot. You will see them using RB times more often than CB. Actually, I think CB is used about as often as thammer by zealots in the base game, so unless thammer is meta too.. 