Congratulations, stupidest thing you guys have ever created

Seriously, hats off to you guys and your utter refusal to engage with a good lobby system in your games ever since you released Darktide.

Versus is the most pointless experience I’ve ever seen. Almost every match starts with 3 players out of 8 present, so by the time a full 8v8 is established, the score is already unbalanced in one team’s favor. When trying to join games, you can only join games that are already halfway over and 90% of the time you’re placed on the losing team’s side.

A thoroughly joyless, rancid experience, I can’t imagine what it must be like to be the dev that has to be credited with this SLOP!

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And why is there GAMER NUMBERS all over my screen? I don’t care how much damage I do with my globadier shots, I’m not a 12 year old, I don’t need FLASHY DEVIL MAY CRY numbers spammed on my screen everywhere.

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The best thing they could have done: Never, ever do versus, and use the resources that were spent on it to fix the myriad of balance issues, stability issues, QoL issues, bug issues that the base game has.

The second best thing they could have done: Treat Versus entirely as a separate side project, preferably with its own launcher, with 0 interaction between it and the base game.

Third best thing: Have them in the same game, but no interaction betwen the two modes whatsoever.

This is getting downhill from here.

Have some minimal interaction between the modes, but don’t try to force the PvE community into this toxic broken pile of shít through versus-exclusive items and such.

Or if you have that, at least introduce the Versus mode without 9000 game breaking bugs, including progress wipes.

WE ARE HERE:
Priorise a versus mode wanted by a loud but small minority over the base game, while the base game is barely playable, QoL is still dogshít after years, the menu system and command wheels are barely functional, weapon balance is nonexistent, most talents are not used because talent balance is nonexistent, rats still spawn behind people’s backs which is the #1 damage source in the game, no client side dodging or blocking still, loot system is worse than it ever was before the rework, the crafting system is still shít, the deeds are still shít, the weaves are still shít, the Chaos Wastes is just barely OK as long as you don’t play as Zealot. Adventure mode is good, aside from the lack of consistent difficulty across maps, or any sort of proportional rewarding of difficulty or length, but hey, people mass suiciding in the game and hosts disbanding when the QP rolls a trachery map or Enchanter’s Lair is no biggie, right? So we got Versus. With Versus-exclsuive items for the entire game to force it and you can bet it’s going to be the main focus of just about all events from now on. Balance is laughable, no SBMM, gamebreaking exploits, a blatant hacker here and there, with more to come for sure, premades with thousands of hours VS people who literally just got the game. A horrid netcode that makes Dark Souls look good and 150+ ping for everyone being the norm on the dedicated QP potato servers. Now instead of having one decent game with decently ironed-out issues we’ll get two broken heaps of shít with 0 chance for major improvement for either, because Darktide is Fartshart’s main project now. If I didn’t know any better, I’d think Versus mode here is the case of giving someone enough rope to hang themselves, and they want to kill VT2 on purpose. Because just about none of the new players we got due to the 95% discount will ever get near this game again after trying versus, I guarantee that, and now the playerbase will be even more divided than ever before, matches will be harder to find, not to mention that the dimishing quality of the game will take its toll as well. Wonder how many people uninstalled because their Okri book progress got wiped with the update, or they found that they were locked out of the DLC maps THAT THEY HAVE PAID FOR!?

Don’t give me the “but iT’s fReE” bullshít either. I’d rather have the devs unfck the over 9000 issues in the game that I PAID FOR thank you very much, although, with or without Versus, given that a moderately talented highschooler intern could probably fix most, while Fartshart couldn’t for years, I wouldn’t have my hopes up either way.

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Still more and better content than Darktide. :rofl:

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I think there is an option to disable them.
In option - versus somewhere.

I gave it a good try during alpha, VS mode felt unfun. I might go back but all my friends have been hard no since coop can already be frustrating with pubs.

Yes, We are here - 6 years later!

Too bad, the game mode IS free and a clear passion project by the devs. Overall V2 is a hidden gem failed VS or not.

Yes, I believe this was how they worded it in the Versus FAQ blog posts years ago and how I assumed it was going to be launched. I can understand the frustration of having some cosmetics locked to having to play this game mode (and win matches to get the currency).

Personally, I’ve been having a ton of fun not taking it too seriously. I’ve been playing with two of my friends who would never touch Vermintide because they don’t care for PvE stuff. It’s obviously not perfect yet, but in voice chat I can tell they are really enjoying it.

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Edit : answer to the OP

Free content and people complaining.
Also, some people love it.

What do you prefer? Having to go through the whole game to get some rewards or be able to leave at some point? Either way I guess you would cry for one side of the story or the other.

It’s not a fatshark issue if people leave or rage quit, it’s a baby issue and people not able to manage frustration in nowadays games.
This is just like the old Left 4 Dead versus mode and I enjoy it.
Except back then, people were not crying over nothing and especially not over free content.

It requires more tuning, more specials and more maps, yes but I like having the possibility to play it and for free too (would have paid for it anyway)

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Oh here is the “iTs fReE cOnTenT” mouthbreather. Yeah. Totally free. Apart from the bugged release breaking the game and wiping the challenge progress of half the players, locking them out of difficulties and paid DLC maps until they complete the base game again. Apart from all the work hours going into this shít instead of fixing the actual game, which is still a bugfest after years and still doesn’t have anything resembling balance. Go ahead. Tell people how they are babies UNLIKE CHAD L4D versus players, who don’t quit. Oh yeah. They just immediately votekick people at the first perceived, usually not even real, mistake. LIKE REAL MEN. Toxic positivity morons such as you are the chief reason why companies can get away with making LITERAL SHÍT because no matter how much rancid it is, how much it stinks, people like you will grab a spoon and eat it up pretending that it is chocolate ice cream, while telling everyone else that they complain too much.

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looks like you are carrying some baggage from L4D. I never heard of players being voted in that game.

The game has been out for 6 years and they are still providing updates and content.

I cant stand the “Its free content” Argument either so i end up instantly blocking everyone like that so i never see them post anything again lol.

People leaving is a FS issue, because it was FS decision to allow people go into versus straight away without completing single map on recruit.
And it was FS decision to not implement any Matchmaker.
Because why should they NOT leave in stomps?
It is not fun for anyone. Just waste of time

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I agree with you. Boggles my mind how some people are up in arms and freaking out about this awesome free update for us.

Sure, more tuning is needed, but it will come. Thanks and keep up the good work Fatshark!

Because it is dev time that was spend on things that they dont like and want.
There are no any changes to other mods so people are upset.