its got so little bearing on skill it doesn’t matter. all it does it test how many friends you have.
if you quickplay every mission you have, you’ll get some poor guy who’s just moved up from damnation whilst you are 6/10. or it’ll put up in smelter plant with 8 sodding snipers with 4 ogyrn with grenade launchers.
honestly i don’t know why its a design decision to hide most content behind friendwall: havoc? GET SOME FRIENDS LOSER. survival achievements? it just really winds me up and makes it not worth playing because you know you’ll never get the achievement? so why bother playing the game, keep buying the cosmetics to help support the franchises? really makes me want to stop playing because there’s loads of other things that i can funnel my time on money into. (inb4 go do that - im trying to appeal to logic here, not attack your favourite game.)
on vermintide it has always been possible to complete everything in the game solo. you cant tell me you can solo hi intensity gauntlet with a sodding rumbler and 9 snipers. (inb4 “yes you can” i genuinely don’t believe you and if you can - give me whatever crack you smoke/hacks you need to get these achievements)
sorry for the rant, it just winds me up when you get achievements that you cant do in quickplay, and as 99% of what i do is quickplay, means i effectively cant achieve them.
like i just don’t get it, how do you get untouchable operative through quickplay, show me how you do it through quickplay. either the quickplay despises me or there was some time when you could fudge the mission so you could just win.
anyway if all you are going to do is say “but others have done it” like yeah i know, i don’t care, im saying this way of measuring success is asinine and bad. you only like it because youve done it.
Gonna be honest and say I got this achievement just by playing Auric Heresy before BfT dropped and solo carrying the mission without breaking much of a sweat. A good enough player can solo a game even with the worst teammates (had more than my fair share of experiences like this) but I’ve never 10’d in a row without being downed or killed, and I’ll probably never.
The main thing that makes this less miserable than it seems to be on paper is the new entry level requirement for Auric being a good win/loss ratio in Damnation missions, so everyone who plays is practically guaranteed to be at least level 30 and have some semblance of knowing what they’re doing. This has always been the cause for Auric, but especially so now.
waheyy there it is, “SkIlL IsSuE bRo.” like okay if you don’t want to talk about the issue, that’s fine just don’t respond.
its also like such an exaggeration. like can a good enough player bring back my dead wife from the dead too?
and you still got the achievement when it was easy - its the typical fatshark thing to do. all achievements just require utter commitment for the first 600 hours and they’ll be completed, then the new changes come round, then more, then more, suddenly the bar to entry has been pushed back 6 tiers.
anyway none of this actually adds to the discussion. its an ass way of measuring skill. there are plenty of people who ive seen play like their 5 year old is playing this game with auric storm survivor. i honestly believe 30% of them have been purchased by an XP boost service or something akin to that.
yeah exactly, either lower the in a row (less optimal) or just remove the “in a row” bit and it solves the entire issue. make it stacking, darktide loves stacking, itll fit right in
As someone who views “get friends and make premades” as an ideal solution to various skill issues and penances in Darktide, it would be rather hypocritical of me to deny the legitimacy of your claim.
Your point is valid and true, even thou not necessarily universal!
However…
As someone who views “get friends and make premades” as an ideal solution to various skill issues and penances in Darktide, you should really get some friends and make premades and enjoy the various solutions along with all the tangible benefits it provides…while also having the peace of mind knowing that what you do is undeniably and indubitably ideal!
or, i can stay anti-social and we can the way this penance works.
making friends doesn’t make me the “untouchable operative” or an auric storm survivor. anyway its a damn sight easier to change the equation to “not in a row” then “make ecobubble choose to team up, try and continue to fail and resent this even further.”
Ok? Opinions, opinions. Why some of you people cannot just play the game instead of obsessing about silly achievements. That thing used to be more than 10 missions afaik, and it bugged out for me for half a decade. Until one day I just completed it with randos. Enjoy the core game
no its always been ten. and if achievements don’t matter why don’t we remove them? if we don’t care about achievements why are you on here telling me to get over it? you don’t care remember?
the requirement is obnoxious but it’s still a skill issue at the end of the day. the achievement is literally calling into question your skill. yeah it sucks that you have to do most of the work in order to get it but that’s always been true for any cooperative game.
in darktide? yeah. space marines don’t have sh!t on a Single Cop
not disagreeing with this at all. there are plenty of competent players in auric in my experience but a good 10% of them are utter ass.
but thats the thing. if im doing the task and everyone else is spaffing about, then i get jumped between a sniper a mutant a dog and a flamer then im sorry but its a game over, no one can deal with that without help i dont care who says otherwise theyre wrong its impossible.
anyway i still think the penance should be changed. just make it 10 without dying, hell, make it 20, just not in a row.
I won’t say that it is all luck or freinds, skill matters, but generally, for the most part it is as you say, i gotten my auric exemplar this weekend and i got 1.3k+ hours in game. A.S.S was acquired long ago, but it was also due to luck in form of 2 rage quits, so i didn’t lost streak, but i wasn’t farming title either at the time.
I especially agree about penances, for no reason some of them locked behind private game, which can be achieved with only 2 players. And it is not something special, i already play martyrdom, all players do, i already use brain burst for bosses, under buff of a sub node for it, which removes heat after using ultimate and let’s in cast faster, but i can’t get these last two class penances.
Some while not being locked are just very hard on it’s own, like one penance for zealot where you need stun bunch of enemies and then kill them in less than 10 seconds. To do it i had to several times to find a way to start game solo, because it’s almost impossible in regular matches, all my attempts to do so failed.
see the rage quits restart my counter, so i cant even leave the game. ALT+f4 just resets my counter. i just start a game in the hopes that people aren’t ass, and when they are, i just end up seeeeettthhiinnngg because what can i do? according to some people - i should turn into the emperor, skull”love” all the enemies around with my assfarts of piety until the game cries and says you really are john Warhammer, here is your untouchable operative penance.
like if i got to 4/10 and could see the writing on the wall, just alt+f4, restart and try again, although scummy, would help preserve sanity. but that doesnt even work!
i did that long ago, but iirc that zealot penance was rather easy with throwing stun grenades into a horde and grilling them with the flamer. maybe i got it because i was such a noob and wasted nades and ammo on hordes, who knows
It also demands stun X amount of enemies with nade, before killing, so basically with full team it was very hard, because by the time i thrown nade and it worked many would be dead, i remember cheking numbers on penance board, i had 38/40 of completion. So i had to find a way to solo it.
Some other hard penances was done by random, like psykers where you need to push x amount of enemies of ledge with sneeze, i couldn’t believe it when i did it, happened in the most unexpeted way on hab dreyko map, during escape.
