Chaos wastes - bot improvment at higher difficulties

[hollerbach]

@Frostysir

Back when the bot improvment mods was launched they actually were useful as long as it worked, they could snipe specials without running around the map and they could fight.

“Could fight” as in not blowing abilities on 1 slaverat, ignore enemies around or not ress people, heck,they could even tag enemies.

@Myavo

My biggest problem since I got back into the game after almost a year break. 2020 with the bot improvement mod was great, they could tag enemies, snipe special when they were in their vision not when they were next to them, when assassin jumped on you they would use range weapon to snipe it instead of now running with range weapon in hand towards the assassin, changing to melee while standing next to it and hitting it and they could res you - so many games right now when bots just look at you when youre downed and not even try to res, getting downed with bots is game over basically. They wouldnt use ult as soon as they see one enemy. But I guess that’s what we get when devs dont want bots to be good since its coop game and youre suppost to play with ppl not solo with bots.

The Bot Improvements - Combat mod has only three specific bot behavior modifications as stated in its description. 1 - Better Melee Choices, 2 - Stay Closer, and 3 - Ping Elites (which currently does not work with the game).

All bot behavior outside those three are not because of the mod, but due to vanilla game bot behavior. This includes whether or not they ignore/target an enemy, how they use their ult, decision-making on when to revive, how they target/snipe specials, among other bot behavior.

@Myavo

2020 with the bot improvement mod was great… when assassin jumped on you they would use range weapon to snipe it instead of now running with range weapon in hand towards the assassin, changing to melee while standing next to it and hitting it…

The bot improvements mod does not affect that behavior. And that bug has been happening even before the Chaos Waste and Bot Improvements updates (Patch 4.2). Bots have always had a propensity to chase after specials with melee weapons.

Here’s a 2020 pre-Outcast Engineer and pre-Bot Improvements update screenshot of me getting stabbed by an assassin rat while the three other bots wander off to melee another special (one bot actually passed by me and ignored me).

Bug reports reporting similar bot behavior have been posted since 2018 (the year the game was released):

Bot suggestions to fix them and make them more immersive (possibly adding features)

Yep, bots not handling specials properly, chasing after specials with melee weapons, and not using ranged weapons on them have long been an issue since 2018. Related prior feedback posts: Jul. 2018 Aug. 2018 Mar. 2019 Sept. 2019 Jul. 2020 Apr. 2020