Title really. We’re all glad the Dueling Swords are going to be expanded to all Human classes, but I think it’s a shame that only one of them, the mk IV, is worth using compared to its compatriots. The Mk V doesn’t have reasonable damage and the other mks have already great mobility so its tradeoff is a bust, and while the Mk II does have the most versatile moveset for horde clearing and one of the good stabs for anti-armor, it still feels like an inferior mk IV with it’s excellent damage, best moveset and great mobility. I think the mk IV needs a nerf or the other two buffed in some meaningful way because as it stands, Dueling Swords are de facto a single mk weapon family.
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why couldn’t you just name this thread buff the Mk5? besides the scenarios where you can loop just heavies (monsters? too many shields and other enemies for it to matter in most of the rest of the game) Mk2 is literally as serviceable as Mk4, but better on horde enemies because of the faster light combo. if you run scoreboard mod and a melee loadout psyker try comparing the amount of damage you’ll do in a run with each, the number of extra attacks it will pull off per round put it ahead. it is much more generalist. as a trade off the Mk4 is better at killing large targets. more weapon families should be like this.
Mk5 is terrible besides the extra dodge though, and even has less damage than the normal dueling sword strikes + the strikedown light is worse on some targets after the turbo buffs than just whacking them in the head with uncanny lights (doubly so on crits). that weapon is pretty bad. Mk2 I am actually going to use more on Zealot personally, it will literally blow your mind how fast they’re going to swish swish that weapon across their screen.
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Yeah, after some runs your right. I guess I hadn’t tried it enough prior to posting about it. It really is just as serviceable and more versatile in its use. I’m also excited to use it on Zealot after your recommendation. If only I could edit the title or it would be ‘Buff Mk V Dueling Sword’, (edit: I can actually lol) though idk what would be best for it. It’s got a strikedown focused moveset, yet has no damage to capitalize on it, though adjusting that to better fit the role such a moveset gives would step on the mk iv’s toes?
The Mk5 isn’t a complete throwaway ; Dueling Swords, as a weapon category, are still really good overall.
- The mk5’s heavies, although weaker, do benefit from a little cleave against smaller enemies. It affords you a little more control if you line them up. But I agree the heavies are a tad slower than the other marks’ stabs, and do not deserve it.
- The special attack’s follow up is the vertical light, and both come out lightning fast ; if you get a crit headshot with the vertical, elites go down quick. And a special attack headshot guarantees a medium stagger on literally anything.
Anyway, the new Blessings for Dueling Swords are gonna shake that up some ; we’re gonna have access to a hefty Power bonus with Relentless Strikes and Thrust, and I wonder what that’s gonna look like in practice.
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I’m a MK V enjoyer, Mk IV is plain OP level broken.
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