In the last balance adjustment, the duration of Voice of Command’s Golden Toughness was already cut by a third—a huge blow to many players of mid and low skill levels. Yet adding another 10 seconds to the skill’s cooldown would deal a fatal nerf to this rare team-oriented ability. Psychic Dome can keep teammates safe amid a hail of gunfire, an absolute necessity in scenarios like Cataclysm 40. If Fatshark wants the Square Shield to be a viable alternative to the Round Shield, they should buff the Square Shield instead of nerfing the Round Shield at the same time. This logic of nerfing to harm player experience is fundamentally flawed and goes against the very purpose of games: to bring joy to people. As for the Loot Goblin’s Ammo Steal talent, it has utterly ruined the gaming experience for other players, and its nerf is fully justified.
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Shout nerf to incentive vets to use the other 2 abilities (shout is still the best from wat am seeing and they buffed the right node), dome nerf because it would be too op in the new game mode.
we’ve seen plenty of buffs to the other options to try to make them on par, but they simply arent sufficient because the other abilities, VoC and bubble are just so inherently strong that they stifle diversity. so the option taken is to reduce the strength of those dominant abilities to make them more in line with everything else. this way, the balance on the enemy side can take this reduction in power into account, and be adjusted accordingly. its fun to play lots of different builds that all feel different and impactful, but its not fun to play the same build day after day because it’s inherently so much more powerful. like you said, fun is the entire point, which is what the ultimate goal is here in the bigger picture
As long as Havoc and Auric coexist with the current balance, the experience of one group of players is inevitably being ruined. In Auric, elements like Gold Toughness and Bubble are clearly overpowered and undermine the experience for players who are looking for a real challenge. And of course, there are many other issues as well, such as DS, Smite, Soulblaze, and various DoT damage sources.
On the other hand, in Havoc, most players would probably be unable to even get through the first area without things like Gold Toughness, Bubble, or Soulblaze,they would be wiped out almost instantly.
If you cannot fight properly without relying on specific builds or abilities, then it simply means your own skill level is insufficient and that you are clearly playing on the wrong difficulty.
For some reason, beginners and intermediate players choose to play Havoc instead of Malice or Damnation, and then cry out in agony when their crutches get nerfed. Don’t you think that’s honestly ridiculous and absurd?
To be honest, the design of the veteran’s Execution posture skill is extremely poor. The key talents in the entire left skill tree of the veteran are not suitable for the current combat environment of the Dark Tide.
After I studied and played the scum and the arbite, I clearly believed that Fat Shark actually knew what kind of shooting skills would work in the close-range street battles in hive, but they just wouldn’t want to recreate the left talent tree of the veteran.
The execution posture of the veteran and the cornerstone of the marskman are hard to play a role in actual combat, especially when using infantry lasers and automatic rifle
The amount of people i am starting to see slowly crawl out of the woodwork to get upset over the pysker and veteran nerfs are starting to really anger me.
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Like Veteran wasn’t nerfed that heavily. Yippie people gotta wait 10 more seconds. If people are struggling that badly to keep toughness up until the shout is ready then…..
Pysker dome is another level of annoying because the dome was a problem, having a dome every 15 seconds with a cooldown build is crazy.
Man I hope fatshark doesn’t cave in to these people’s demands. This is a good step for balance and i am sure eventually people will find a new meta to use but first they gotta get over the separation phase.
if that experience is solely based on overperforming outliers and talents that replace actual player actions, I’d say this experience is null and void and shouldn’t be there in the first place if balancing was being curated regularly.
people got used and comfortable in certain characters power creep and deem it “normal” and necessary to enjoy the game.
speaking of “joy”, a single player game is purely based on “fun” as motivation.
as soon as other people are involved and you compare performances, the moment you realize certain players net more results with less effort, it’s not up to “fun” but an effort/reward ratio that mirrors fairness to those participating and competing with each other for the best influence on the outcome.
the game being coop in design doesn’t mean one holding back on behalf of some guy from god knows where, you see a dude go “ham” and you want to do better, simple as.
running towards the same exit doesn’t make us war buddies, nor does it entail any obligation for an “altruistic gameplay”
if 4 dudes put in 25% by sweating their asses off, everyone had “fun” by feeling accomplished.
if one cheapshit uses stuff that needs a fracture of said effort but gets x-times the output, it aint “fun”.
when other people are involved in a game, there’s always a performance metric, coop or pvp doesn’t make a difference in the thrive to better oneself.
while there should be none, period.
party finder was a mistake, dealing with dudes shivering their pants at the thought of… oh my god…. losing a match is a pain in the ass.
reason I seldomly play havoc40 (when I do it’s exclusively off meta, with randoms only and no coms) is dealing with people in the first place.
game plays “the most fun” when you just hit play and do your thing no matter who’s on board or what he’s doing.
then you can say at the end it’s “your result” that mattered, not some dome or yellow toughness.
Yeah it only allows for 24%+ toughness per second with some of the highest tdr amounts in the entire game and also has tons of ranged damage buffs that make every weapon quite strong, thats simply just not enough we need to powercreep it more
but we need stronger or even just equal new choice!come on ,look about the 12 axemen, 6 orges,4 traper and 4 mutant,we need a way to settle this by the emperor！
and you can choose a weapon strong enough to deal with crushers,oh,you do see 12 crushers flooding with numerous other sucm and boomers right?you should see that before you say something for those plague carriers
While i disagree that the dome was an absolute necessity, the dome wasnt exactly an outlier or over centralized, the dome nerfs are a very big overreach. the dome being 60 seconds is extremely long, and not comparable to the actual strength and utility it provides. the shield does not have the same worth as zelots chorus of spiritual fortitude that has the same cooldown time (not accounting for cdr of zelot or psyker).
Also fatshark did not nerf shield to harm player experience, this is most likely a case of spread sheet balancing, as most new psyker players relied on it due to the classes squishy nature, but on higher levels it isnt as impactful as psykers other 2 abilities. the only thing this nerf does is hurt newer players, and make a once usable ability not worth the point investment
Assuming zelots invocation of death is always active then 30 seconds, with cdr curios 26.4 seconds
Psyker with 4 stacks of warp syphon psykenetics aura always active and cdr curios about 26.25 im pretty sure (but your nerfing yourself to a warp syphon shield only build)
