Psyker has a 10% CDR aura thats commonly picked, aswell as psykinetics aura for 50% faster CD for 5 sec, which realistically has pretty much 100% uptime on higher difficulties since the condition is killing a special or elite teamwide, unlike zealots crit CDR. Assuming that melee zealot is critting every 3 seconds for 30 seconds is very bold.
Another point is that zealots cooldown doesn’t start until the chorus is over.
Math on the bubble doesn’t work out to be 26.25s with my math. Trinkets and aura are ADDITIVE. So after aura and trinkets, we are at 19.8 second CD on a warp siphon shield, which I believe is also additive. Then we speed that up by 50% from psykinetics aura and we end up at a 13.2s cooldown.
Unusably low? Made unusable? If the nerf didn’t happen, that would’ve been 9.9 seconds. SHOULD psyker have a 9.9 second cooldown shield? Is the shield unusable with a 13.2s cooldown instead of 9.9s? Does that 3.3s increase in cooldown ruin the ability as you claim?
I am honestly not sure right now if Warp Siphon is additive I just realized. So if it calculates after it would be 21.84s cooldown, and 16.38 before. So still just a 5.46s difference.
Almost everyone runs warp siphon in meta setups btw, it’s not nerfing yourself. There’s no reason to run DD with the meta staff.
i didnt take seers presence into account your right but also. Your math is just wrong….. i dont know where you got this additive thing from, also the reason people run warp siphion setups is to use get more staff casting setups or venting shreak setups… you can run it with shield but its not exactly going to be effective at either of those things. and yes it is a big difference, and not worth the cooldown time cost. you can test it in game. i dont know what your getting at
So if someone is running flame staff + bubble meta build, and flamestaffs 99% of the mission like psyker on Havoc does, which keystone should he in your opinion pick? You’re saying he wouldn’t pick the 24% damage keystone that also gives him a massive CD reduction?
I’d like to stick to the old question, as you avoided answering. Why do you think picking the 24% damage keystone talent with 45% CDR effect built in is a selfnerf?
Are you perhaps implying the CDR doesn’t matter on bubble? Then why are you complaining about a CD increase on the bubble?
Why would a psyker who is using the common bubble + flamestaff setup on H40 care about DD?
it’s a good pick if you melee, but you don’t actually melee a lot with that setup
bubble shouldent need cdr. the other talent gives more stats. yes you can do whatever you want in this game, but the nerf was not warrented. thats what the topic is
Are you referring to the DD keystone? DoTs should not be able to crit? and flamestaff M2 charge up should gain nothing from weakspot damage and same for its M1 attack?
Did Fatshark change this, or am I just misremembering things?
The flamestaffs base damage does crit, it actually crits an insane amount it can fill up all the crit talents and keep them constantly up 100% of the time. but the flame DOT does not crit.
my point was shield should not be locked to only using warp syphion though. warp syphon is amazing for flame staff
But then you’d want crit chance and not crit damage, so what does DD even offer except the 25% damage if you add in the perfectionism keystone modifier? Why even mention DD as an alternative as in giving more stats?
It wasn’t before and isn’t now. Without warp siphon, the CD nerf was 23.4s → 31.2s
This isn’t a big enough nerf to make the bubble unusable. 30 sec CD for a bubble that lasts for 25s unless it gets used up (happens only on H40 if you put it up right infront of 20 gunners) is completely fine.
It’s reasonable that without heavy CD investment (via warp siphon) you can’t just overlap shields.
flamestaff you dont need to focus on crits since it sends so many attacks it crits often enough to prock the crit skills, if your running assail or melee, DD is very much an alternative, especially if running dualing sword or knife, its a great option
okay so we agree to disagree, my point was shield does not have the same worth as chorus of spirital fortitude or psykers other abilities that has a similar cooldown. you could have lead with this comment and avoided the whole strange conversation.
Chorus lasts like 5 seconds and the CD doesn’t replenish during it. Zealots CDR only works when he’s actively meleeing. Chorus also disallows the zealot himself from doing anything during the duration, other than move around. Chorus can also be interrupted by knockbacks and stuns.
There are plenty of balance factors that make the skills incomparable, and even if the zealot melees for the whole duraiton and keeps the 3s-on-melee-crit CD rate buff up, it still takes like 8 seconds longer than a CD optimized bubble to come back.
It is, but I was under the impression that this was specifically about flamestaff + bubble setup? so what am I missing out on with DD keystone with this setup in mind?