God, just admit that without modifications and with random players, your skill level doesn’t match rank 40. Calmly drop down to rank 29 and enjoy yourself. The very fact that you stop trying to play after losing rank already shows you’re artificially trying to maintain it. It would probably be useful in the next patch to make it so attempts don’t reset with the start of a new week
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My stance on mods is well, well, well documented across this forum.
Go peruse at your leisure if you want. That’s not what this thread is about.
And no I do not accept any results with gameplay mods active as legitimate results. Why would I?
Deal with it.
I can say with certainty that everything I have achieved in DT has been completely without external crutches. Anyone using gameplay mods cannot claim that and no amount of mental gymnastics changes that.
then like i said earlier, i think you’d be better off just not playing havoc, because literally almost every havoc player will be using mods of some sort, and you wouldnt want them to spoil your perfect unmodded game would you? because now all your havoc 40 attempt were completed with someone using mods, which means its invalidated sorry
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I’ve completed many, many h40 games.
I’m also not childishly narcissistic enough to claim it’s easy.
It is absolutely dependent on many factors that we have no control over. To think we do in a game as lottery-complex as DT is insane.
Where are you getting this statistic about all havoc player using mods?
lol
lmao even
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Cool retort bro. So you got nothing then? You’re just making stats up? Gotcha.
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start asking every lobby before you load in, “hey you guys have mods?” that’ll answer your question for you
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So you don’t have the stats and you’re making it up or basing it off a personal hunch. Gotcha 
How do you even manage to lose ranks in the first place? I read that those who have reached rank 40 can no longer lose that rank unless they deliberately demote themselves.
And if you somehow still manage to do it, then at least admit to yourself that you aren’t capable of maintaining your current rank unless you abuse the system of attempts being restored at the start of a new week.
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Please list all mods that made me win that h40, without which I would lose that game.
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the top 8 mods for darktide on nexus have ~3,027,600 downloads total.
how many players does darktide have? steam charts ~6,700
how many play havoc?
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Have never stated anything the like. What I said is that you need TWO good players, or three average ones. You can absolutely drag one dead weight across all the missions, unless it’s something like rotten blight gloriana.
Actually I started at 29, so I got +3 for 32, than +2 for 34 and 36, at which point you gain 1 per. If your average havoc takes an hour, that explains a lot, pacing that slow will be HEAVILY penalized by the director, you can finish every map in 30-35 with good pacing at most.
The aforementioned is the biggest pain point playing pugs, running a full “meta” team, stacking all the defensive ultis will come at the expense of damage more often than not, meaning the director will drown you in disablers to punish the sluggish pace.
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No wonder why most people don’t take Havoc and Havoc players seriously.
The guy complained about the derank which has been a legit complain since forever, and some people just need to style with their pointless “but it was done solo by <insert tryhard 5k hour player who basically lives inside the game>!” etc.
I’ve been 40 personal assignment every season, and even I think derank is stupid. It’s pointless, too, because it doesn’t keep bad players away from 40 lobbies. It should be gone yesterday.
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sorry, your keyboard and mouse inputs are shown on screen, thats cheating and invalidated 
I’m not sure what’s the point of all this bragging, because I’ve played with you, and even though everybody was decent we still lost a number of games before winning. Havoc is known for its BS like 4 bosses in the beginning of the map which drains all your resources, or just spawning Rotten Armor horde in a small room with nowhere to kite. I’ve seen youtubers like Reginald, NewType and others go on losestreaks in Havoc.
So while you can definitely climb by yourself and people who play often will easily get to 40 personal assignment, as long as they’re not awful, it doesn’t make derank and seasons reset any less stupid.
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I don’t think anyone has campaigned for the derank system anywhere, at any time. But stopping queuing for havoc because of derank fear is quite frankly, batshit levels of ridiculous to me.
No really, who gives an F, I know I will be back to 40 no matter what eventually , so what does it matter, 35-40 is literally the same anyhow.
Not sure where am I bragging, I never claimed to be amongst the very top players. All I can relay is my experience playing this game thousands of hours.
he said this, i showed 2 examples of havoc 40 being solo’d, its really not that deep
its just perpetual goalpost moving, people will be upset about everything, you show them it can be done, theyll move the goalpost and be upset about something else, it doesnt stop
ok but what does this actually add to the discussion besides owning someone on the internet. Like really, is it hard to believe that people who no life’d havoc 40 could eventually get the 1% chance that they win? Does this really need to be an argument?
I think for the most part, this post is about how the demotion system sucks, and the discussion about how there are people who can solo havoc 40 (and indeed, it is very easy and very possible to do it with stealthlot or even stealthvet), and not about how you just totally owned that guy by showing off several true solos by people who, as he pointed out, have the time to do that.
And to add on, the demotion system is an example of an anti-player system, and that havoc shouldn’t be confined to a minimum 33% winrate. I would prefer if havoc could be pushed so hard to a 1% winrate instead, but because of demotions, they have to be easy to some regards.
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Derank system sucks, not playing havoc because of fear of deranking says more bout the player than the system tho.
That is what my argument is about.