A list of mods that should be part of the base game

[Padds]

@Cerulean

I play so many MP Games and all of them have a Scoreboard by default, the whole discussion of it creating toxicity doesn’t even exist there and no one even has that in mind and yet here it does precisely that. Maybe it is just because of that. But never before in any other MP Game from MP may it be PvE like Warframe or RTS like WC3/DoW or PvP/TeamvsTeam/BattleRoyale….not once read a single person even make that accusation that it creates toxicity…not even in Browsergames which have one….yet here you get constantly people just chasing after hur dur big DMG Number on SB everyone else sucks

Yeah we get this a lot this debates been going on in the forum for years and i cant count the times ive had to point out that toxicity got raised by a CM once and sure a few people have posted about it but mostly its brought up by people who do want the scoreboard as its a very easy straw man to knock over.

But its not actually one of the complaints people like me raise, its about how accurate it is and the negative impact it has how it pushes people to play worse and make poor decisions.

any competitive MP game can have a scoreboard no problem there, a lot of co op games it will have a much reduced impact the more class and role based the lower the fail chance etc

[MunKy]

@Padds

its about how accurate it is

Thats exactly why i dont install it. When two people from the same match posted two different results I kinda decided not to bother.

I will let God-Emperah will judge me tyvm

[Gideon404]

That’s the problem with client-side parsers. Not an issue if the scoreboard is managed by the company that makes the game.

[MunKy]

I agree. Im an advocate for a proper scoreboard native in game. The fact that the mod seems unreliable is a reason why Iv not tried it.

The other (and main reason) is Im lazy af and I just raw dawg it and play DT vanilla unless I want to true solo and test myself.

edit: I do feel the need to add, I actually dont care all that much if we never get one.

[xscyther]

eww wtf

[Gideon404]

They’ve already added quite a few. Off the top of my head I can think of contracts overlay, favouriting items and invite blocking during havocs.

[Pirx]

it’s beyond me how invites during a havoc games are still not fixed without mods.
and where is temp buff fix? is it still needed?

[Gideon404]

I thought they did fix havoc invites? They credited Badwin in the patch notes.

Temp buff fix no longer needed so Wobin took it down.

Edit: interesting bit of context, the buff crash was because a different modder (DerGrimnir) discovered that keystone buffs were often failing to display because there was an icon cap. FS raised the cap after he reported this, which led to crashes, which led to the fix mod, which was replaced by the fix patch.

[the1396]

solo play for me. fact we had to mod in a feature they spent 3+ years working on and should be standard feature in this genre is just sad.

[gpkgpk]

@Hrupo

This should be the vanilla experience imo

Was the /s too subtle and I missed it? It’s /s implied, right?

[Gideon404]

They just integrated Show Remaining Dodges mod

[gpkgpk]

Well that’s one put to rest (and sometime a controversial one), it’s good for the consolers and will hopefully reduce the bunny hop dance of death.

[se05239]

The first three alone would be so good to have as a base feature.

Especially the anti-carpal tunnel mods.. Unless I play slower weapons, it’s one or two games per day for me..

[CH3DD4R_G0B-L1N]

I don’t see how Show Dodges was priority over the rest of Numeric UI (other than just being easier I guess) as NUI is a basic…can we even call it a feature? standard… of video games.

[Pirx]

I never had these carpal tunnel issues, but I find having to spam clicks irritating. Also it kills the mouse buttons, even with switches rated to 50 million clicks or more.

[se05239]

Carpal tunnel sucks bad.