I hate that they basically don’t show players’ Havoc rank anywhere in the actual game.
Not just for making the party finder experience more smooth. Ideally, they’d show it by default beside everyone’s player level even outside of Havoc. This would incentivize people to keep playing Havoc after they’ve gotten the cosmetics/reached 40 once.
What could their reasoning be for this odd decision you think? It’s like Fatshark wants this game mode to die asap just like Orthus Offensive (although this is an entire game mode!). It really is WoM all over again.
FS’s retention long-term strategies seem virtually non-existent. Sorry if toxic, but the retention leads/director really seem to have no clue.
If @FatsharkStrawHat or anyone from the team sees this, please consider showing it in more places, including outside of Havoc!
On the contrary. They overindulge on the worst retention strategies: Weekly lockouts, time-gating and intentional obfuscation of information to make the grind take longer.
They know full well what they’re doing. They’re just terrible at understanding what works and what doesn’t. Remember their famous quote that went along the lines of:
“We known better what players need and give them that instead of what they ask for”
It generally takes 2-3 years and massive player number drops for their stubborn minds to come around. Alternatively a shtstorm on forums/reddit/steam ratings.
A bit off-topic but yeah I added “long-term” in the OP. The traditional FS dealer-like tactics are there, but I don’t see how they expect people to keep going after they’ve reached their desired ranks.
Showing players’ Havoc ranks in regular games could be a simple fix to both give players a way to show off their skill level and to promote their new game mode I believe.
Good to hear. While I know it wasn’t my specific request that got the team to change this, what I meant was to display players’ Havoc rank in the wait lobbies starts and the finish screen in regular games (Havoc games too ofc). Haven’t been able to see it for myself, maybe that’s included in the change.
Either way showing it in the Mourningstar is a good start
Instead, to me it’s correct that it remains a separate thing… Havoc, no matter how they called it, it’s not the endgame (imo), it’s a different and separate mode
However strawhat already said it will be sadly shown in the mourningstar
Is there a way to remove it in the mourningstar and just have trust level if you don’t want to have to bother with Havoc? Dunno if it’s a bug but my lvl 576 psyker now only displays low havoc level and I can’t be bothered with havoc, I just want more story/game content. Even with true level mod on, the havoc one overrides everything to only display itself and title, and graphic glitches on turns occasionally.
I see the rank in game, considering kicking havoc players. They are the new loner zealots jumping in auric thinking they can solo and 9 out of 10 die in the first min and leave.
