average psyker main just refuses to learn melee combat for whatever reason, then crutches on staff gameplay or smite and says that they’re good at the game despite ignoring half the game mechanics
Provided you’re not forced to move around a lot by incoming specialists etc. and can continously stream fire into massed enemies to keep crits proccing.
Again, in practice, it often doesn’t work out that way.
I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve run into a shotgunner wall and streamed fire into it with this belief that crit dodge will save me at >75 peril only to still take buckshot because procs didn’t happen consistently enough. Or been forced to move because of spawning specialists or approaching bosses, which meant not being able to keep proccing crits and then suddenly become very very vulnerable to ranged.
you can go into a Havoc 40 test map, spawn 100+ maulers, and kill them all in seconds
“In seconds”. You guys sure love exaggarating.
I literally did what you asked me to do to prove it is not an exaggeration and you then throw the “controlled environment” nonsense as if that was not my original hypothetical. You dudes already won the fight because current Fatshark doesn’t care so I don’t see why you need to kick a man when he’s already down.
purge staff removes the need to avoid any enemy except bosses, crushers and mutants.
in practice, from someone who spent an embarrassing amount of time playing purge + shriek, it is EXACTLY as broken and OP as it sounds. refusing to acknowledge this just holds you back and puts you in the same group of people who think the duelling sword 4 is “fair and balanced”
In practice it just doesn’t work out that way, but I guess it’s pointless to keep debating this because it’s pure assertion now.
this is the last time i will say this
in practice, it works exactly like this
if and only if your melee prowess isn’t…well completely non-existent
anyway you can enjoy lying to yourself and others, i have more important things to do than try and explain things to someone who refuses to understand
in practice
Skill issue. No other phrase to describe it. If you can’t obliterate the majority of a map playing this class with its strongest tools then I don’t know how else to say it. Class has already made Maelstrom unplayable and this genie is not going back in the bottle ever.
Well I must bow before my superiors then. ![]()
We are speaking of the hypothetical top of this class that is barely even a hypothetical and you all are saying you can’t do it. How else am I supposed to say it?
Me not being impressed with the video is not the same as me not understanding what happens in it. Showcases like that are not an accurate representation of the game, let alone Havoc.
I play Havoc at high level as every class. Here’s me at 01:51:00 playing with some streamer topping every important damage stat while having the lowest “damage received” on the team. Next game I played much worse, but still did decent.
I know what each class is capable of in Havoc 40, and Psyker is not as OP and effortless as people here claim. Without a good Ogryn or Zealot on the team (aka frontline), Psykers eat all that unnecessary aggro. Without gold toughness or bubble, they go down against a couple of shooters targeting them. They deal the lowest BOSS damage on the team. The reason they deal top overall damage is simply because they have the best horde crowd control, so most of their damage comes from hitting multiple horde enemies with each attack.
You guys provide theoreticals with perfect conditions and base your opionions on someone playing perfectly. Playing weapon perfectly to its max potential is not a sign of it being OP.
Show it, don’t just say it. Words are not impressive.
Go play some random Havoc 40 games with your inferno scriers build and delete everything. Show us how trivial it is.
it seems you do understand what is being said
but you are wording it in a way that makes it seem like you do not, without a full team EVERYONE except stealth zealots or infiltrate veterans (both builds being non-viable in havoc and terrible in auric) crumbles and dies after a certain amount of time unless they’re dorn, cole, combine or someone else im not thinking of off the top of my head as of right now
ideal conditions involve live frontline and special targeting from your team
but alone in the team, the purge psyker will kill all poxwalkers, brutes, crushers, mutants, trappers, bombers, bursters (though still a bad idea), dogs, gunners ragers and whatever else i didn’t mention that isn’t a boss or crusher without any issue whatsoever.
that is the point being made, that a few are refusing to acknowledge
I feel like if I play a pub 40 and post about it, people will just say I was protected so the only logical conclusion would be to true solo and I don’t think I have the heart to grind out another true solo because people are being mean to me on the internet again. Already recorded some iiivegs because of reddit and I don’t enjoy the strain recording puts on my computer.
Don’t play victim lol.
I played with you, you’re bad
Skill issue
Crutches
egos
You guys dogpiled Margaret for a different opinion on the weapon, even though your point lacks nuance and all your proof comes from a test showcase.
That’s not ideal conditions. That’s real gameplay conditions.
Ideal conditions is having awareness of the exact enemy spawns, getting spawns where you want them, always having a room to kite, having a perfect build for it (without considering how it performs in real games) etc.
In live gameplay you don’t have 100% HP all the time, you have to fight multiple bosses while all the specials and elites attack you. Not to mention playing 2 minutes in test showcase is WAY WAY easier than performing well for 30 minutes straight in actual Havoc 40 games.
I only said skill issue to describe people saying they can’t play psyker at peak degeneracy. The other stuff was that other dude. I also posted that 35 spamming dudes in the dark because I was asked to provide pub footage as soon as possible so I just played a completely random game on a class I never touch and this was not nearly enough. This whole thread was supposed to be about voidstrike getting a buff anyways. Dude my head is spinning I’ve actually been baited.
i’ve played purge in havoc, it’s incredibly boring
Cool story bro. LMAO
You don’t need to prove anything. It’s obvious Hahhahahaaaa
I see the Trust-Me-Brothers have come out in force. I think my work here is done.
Wow, you got Top. Damage? Dude…
LMAO You can’t make this shirt up.
You guys sure love exaggarating.
Naaaaah.
That’s all the times you two shot first. How else would you describe being mean to a dude trying to make a point? Everything I’ve said up to this point has just been sarcasm’d upon so I’m not sure why I’m even doing this to myself anymore. I just got upset because I literally can’t pub Maelstrom anymore and Havoc is the only fun gamemode left. Even then Havoc with a purg psyker is very not fun to play. That very same stream I posted earlier had Prist hit 2 million damage playing purg shriek when I just wanted to hit things with melee.
Interesting, Perilous Combustion I assume? Blaze Away on Purgatus? I must admit, that is rather broken. Soulblaze should never do that much damage to armor.
Perilous was just buffed last patch. Soulblaze kills can proc more Perilous stacks and dots can proc Kinetic Flayer. Blaze Away is global power so it affects dots and crits apply extra Soulblaze so Warp Nexus is optimal there.