Thoughts on Vet keystones and tree changes?

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@dannylew8299

It feels like Veteran needs 3 - 6 more talent points to get through these nodes

@Enclave

Literally just remove the stat nodes at the end and it would be fine. You lose like 5+ points to those worthless things.

Veteran needs approximately 10 to 15 nodes removed to be in line with the other classes according to this thread: Veteran tree has too many nodes

@hobobobulus

I’m just doing a quick hand count here, so bear with me and feel free to correct if needed. The following is a count of the amount of talent and stat nodes for each character, not counting blitzes, auras, ultimates, and keystones:

Ogryn: 30 talents, 19 stat nodes. 49 total.

Zealot: 37 talents, 16 stat nodes. 53 total.

Psyker: 20 talents, 18 stat nodes, and uniquely 6 nodes that modify blitzes. 44 total.

Veteran: 46 talents, 20 stat nodes. 66 total.

In my opinion, ideally you want to combine some of the nodes and return the toughness and HP back to the vet innately. I can’t remember whether it was patch 13 or 14 that ripped out so much of the Vet’s innate toughness and HP and turned them into nodes. That would cut down on a lot of the filler.