Revolver is strong but with the reload and ammo reserve …. Hive can make it great again
Heavy sword is a horde killer. Shame cause I loved it. I am always surprised how this weapon can perform… I am always surprised to kill crushers with it… and still it works (ok with the right setup).
Don’t need a
New dlc maybe just love to other stuff make it usable I wil be quite fine
With hive scum I use combat shotgun since the rework this is fine and working without a build for it
No… this is worse than that.
We will see soon complaints. This is the biggest mistake from Fatshark, the stub revolver…
With pickpocket… my god. I have not wanted to test, because I already see that it is too strong. Will test today, but I am sure it will be stupidly overpowered.
I stop here… because the topic looks like a discord 
I let others taking part of the discussion 
Revolver in auric and more is still a pain with all the reload.
Sure in damnation this is pretty strong in Maël and more this is toy you just can’t use it in a serious way
But yeah this is me maybe. Actually I can’t found a good ranged weap for my Scum
He is probably just lying for attention.
No don’t think and we still can be polite and accept an other idea. What are you using as ranged for scum ?
well personally I think giving them back some of their presence is a good thing, the problem lies with the still borked spawn rate and clown cars of old in auric maelstrom upwards.
mainly playing ogryn so there’s a couple suitable carapace can openers, that work in tandem with either melee for flak maniac and ranged for carapace unyielding or vice versa 
This decision put almost 60% of weapons out for me no wasn’t the solution. But I can understand your point.
Obviously you were doing something wrong
Except few weapons (stub autopisol by example) all are good enough to be used. Several are OP, several are underpowered clearly.
But you should always cover all threats. And to do it, you usually pick your weapons to cover all threats, so carapace included (and maniacs also).
So, a boltgun with a devil’s claw → good
a devils’claw with a stub autopistol → must be a joke
I cannot see what it has put away for you…
I got overhead from mauler, who did 90 degree turn turn around the corner, basically L turn.
This is why this game isn’t raising. It everybody have to deal with everything. Normally you have to invest in a role and all the member of the party too this is exactly why this game don’t raise. You have to do a lil of all thing thinking your mates will sucks.
When I see an Ogryn with some frame who’s need 100h to attain but they got all curios with +1 wounds and he was really m dying every time minutes… how the f**l can we balance this game ? When In the same time you got a team with 10’000 hours of play cumulated
I mean in the “old days” when damnation was all we got, having one or two of em pop up was an encounter worth noticing and acting accordingly.
one kited/blocked/dodged, the others tried their best to get in some damage.
kinda 1/2 plague ogryn with a mallet 
and while I enjoy the fast paced action of today, having followed my learning curve over 3+ years now, current boss spawns in the atonement event of all sorts remind me of that feeling again.
(nope I don’t count havoc and it’s number/color shenanigans cause I prefer to not be dependent on the class/talents of others to such degree)
as part of a premade with people you “like”, sure I can see the appeal in that.
but randoms to a large percentage are just too unreliable to the point of dragging down a match, so at the end of the day you kinda have to do the jobs yourself.
and boy oh boy did I have a wild assortment of randos in my event matches today.
from good carries&clutches to something even atlas couldn’t lift and in the end an arbi that was actively throwing the match by refusing to heal and run head long into every encounter, stirring up half the map in the process.
one can’t carry proper if the very mates keep pushing attrition
In Havoc this is clearly what players do in pre made.
In random, you cannot bet that the others will be enough skilled to replace you, or that they will specialize in killing carapace because you took nothing to deal with it. If you do, you play heads or tails.
You could face the surprise that everybody has think like you and none has something to deal with this crusher, this dreg ragers wave, this monstrosity etc.
Unless you play with premade, something I don’t do(or few times), you have to cover all threats.
There is not a lot: carapace, maniac, monstrosities and hordes
Only a single sniper can wipe the whole team even with 3 veteran in the team
No. A sniper don’t wipe a team. He can kill one because someone dodged at the right moment and the sniper can kill the teammate close to him instead of the dodger (it happens), but no… a sniper cannot kill 4 players. Or they lack clearly skill or are surrounded and were promised to the death.
that must have been the nurgle version of vasily zaitsev himself 