This game has terrible performance/optimization. It runs at a fraction of the frame rate of other games, so I don’t see why anyone would play this game when they can play another game which does not run horribly. Even on low graphics settings the frame rate is awful. Please optimize your game.
I will provide some information as follows.
PC:
Intel i5-12600K CPU at 5.0 GHz
Gigabyte Z690 motherboard
XFX RX 5700 XT GPU at 2.0 GHz
G.skill 16 GB DDR4 4800 MHz RAM
Samsung 870 Evo 930 GB SATA SSD
Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 CPU cooler
Be Quiet 140 mm fans
Seasonic GX-850 850 W PSU
Corsair Air 540 case
Asus optical drive
Windows 11
You better get used to it. Your 5700XT is not capable of a variety of crucial features the consoles are, like HW-Raytracing, Mesh Shaders, Sampler Feedback, ML acceleration and VRS. So if a game is developed without last generation in mind (PS4, Xbox One) like this game, your 5700XT will suffer more and more. Not the developers fault you have outdated architecture that is a lot worse than the Turing architecture from 2018 (RTX 2000 series).
Nah, the rx 5700 xt is great gpu, I get extremely high frame rates in games which are not badly optimized garbage like this one.
Compared to the rtx 2000 series, it had much better performance/price, that series was a joke.
I am getting an rx 6900 xt though because the price of that has gone down a lot.
The game is very poorly optimised indeed, but it in no way detracts from the fact that you have an outdated GPU which is exacerbating the problem. I find it hard to believe that you do not run into such issues in other games, unless you mainly play very non-demanding titles like r6s.
The fact is that you are suffering a two fold issue of running up against a poorly optimised piece of software, and also a piece of software utilising technologies that your hardware cannot support or utilise properly, due to being outdated.
Your comments about Turing cards are highly amusing and further underline your lack of understanding.
If you are getting a 6900xt then perhaps stop bellyaching about the fact that your sub par GPU won’t even deliver a good framerate at 1080p on a game that is not well optimised, and get on with changing your GPU xx
edit: I don’t want to come across as a hardware snob, but the fact is that your GPU was launched as a budget option for 400 bucks nearly 3.5 years ago. It is entirely unsurprising that you run into such issues at this point in time, the only surprising thing is that it has not happened to you on a much wider scale before now (again, likely down to your choice of games. I imagine you are not playing much Cyberpunk 2077, Dying Light 2 or other resource intensive titles).
Rather than generalising about well optimised games, perhaps provide a list of the titles that you play for the most part. What actually runs well for you? Anything that isn’t lightweight / low resource use? It would be interesting to know.
Turing cards were indeed heavily overpriced. They certainly did not improve the price/performance envelope from pascal due to the silly RRP. No disagreement there. They did, however, come with architecture and features that makes them still perform way above your card, which made them a good purchase 2nd hand or down the line.
Your simplistic way of looking at GPU architecture and your continued aversion to providing specific detail about what actually runs well for you just increases the likelihood that you are simply enjoying acceptable performance because of your choice of titles.
Ah, ad hominem attacks. The last resort of those who know they have no point to make. How cute.
I think it is fair to say that this thread has run its course. You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink. Best of luck with your future endeavours, you will certainly need it. xx
He did never mention “rx 5700 xt not being a good gpu”. You are being ignorant here. The person you blocked has been trying to explain to you that the card lacks features. It can have the horsepower, but if it lacks the features, it cannot compare. Thats like a person trying to carry a lot of stuff without a bag, he can do it up to a point, but if he had a bag, or multiple, he could carry so much more and it is not thanks to an increase in “power” but rather increase in “features”. I hope you understand now.
nope, do not understand, a 1 gen old gpu should be able to run games fine, you cannot expect every gamer to have a current gen gpu, especially since they get more expensive every generation, so if your game does not run well on a 1 gen old gpu, it might as well be considered defective
oh by the way here are the recommended requirements:
RECOMMENDED:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 10 (64 bit) / Windows 11 (64 bit)
Processor: Intel i7-9700K (3.70GHz) OR AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (4.2GHz)
PC:
Intel i5-12600K OC CPU
Asrock RX 6900 XT OC GPU
Gigabyte Z690 motherboard
G.skill 16 GB DDR4 4800 MHz RAM
Samsung 870 Evo 900 GB SATA SSD
Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 CPU cooler
Be Quiet 140 mm fans
Seasonic GX-850 850 W PSU
Corsair Air 540 case
Asus optical drive
Windows 11
1080p, custom high graphics settings, 140 fps average
the absolute performance is good with this gpu, but the relative performance is terrible at about HALF the frame rate of well optimized games
this game can run well (120+ fps) at 1080p and high graphics settings, but at high resolutions I doubt that it can run well on any hardware in existence
I do agree that its very badly optimised, as I am having trouble with an RTX 3080 and I9 12900K(That is how I got here). But you were absolutely oblivious to the thing that the other guy was trying to tell you.
Well, according to plaguevessel, by his logic, if the radeon 5700 XT is an outdated card, than so is the Nvidia rtx 2060 super, they have similar performance. Are you going to tell all the users who own a RTX 2060 super that they cant play the game either? lol…
Grave, best advice I can give you is Windows 11 is probably costing you frames. You want Windows 10 for gaming. I know it sucks, but Microsoft said themselves they are having less performance in gaming in general on Windows 11 right now.
Also, some settings in this game I have noticed give you big FPS increases : turn off or low - Ambient Occlusion, Screenspace Reflections, max ragdolls, ragdoll interaction, depth of field, lens flares etc… turn all this crap off.
Also use the AMD FSR quality and you will see a huge FPS jump.
IMO, the 5700 XT or the RTX 2060 super are still strong cards for 1080p, just gotta turn down some settings and play on windows 10.
Here is a list of the most popular gpu’s on steam:
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop GPU
If this game does run well on those gpu’s then hardly anyone will play it.
Nope, windows 11 is the same for gaming except that it manages e cores correctly unlike windows 10. I am not using an outdated OS. I have tuned the settings. I am not using upscaling crap to make my game look blurry, no thanks.
Back 4 Blood is a good example of a recent game which is literally the same type of game as this which runs at a 100% higher frame rate (250-300 fps average vs. 130-150 fps average). The developers obviously have no clue what they are doing when it comes to performance and optimization.