I think someone who think Purgatus with Venting Shriek is a challenge run should be careful about condescending others. That’s quite a glass house you’re throwing stones in.
Your brain clearly can’t fathom the sheer pressure of running a Psyker team with Purgatus and Venting Shriek in Havoc Rank 40. I’ve always prioritized facts over empty talk. Either you join me for a Havoc 40 run in five hours when I’m off work, or I’ll just send you a video so you can see for yourself the kind of intensity we deal with
I’m explaining this to you one last time because I’m afraid you just don’t get it; don’t expect me to be this patient next time.
In a standard squad, the Veteran’s primary role is to eliminate Specialists while using smoke grenades to prevent the team from being instantly melted by Gunners. When a Psyker chooses an aggressive setup like Purgatus with Venting Shriek, the Veteran is forced to take massive risks to hunt down specialists, leading to longer gaps in smoke coverage. This leaves the Ogryn completely exposed to being shredded by Gunners. Without the cover of smoke or a shield, the pressure in Havoc Rank 40 is beyond your comprehension—the Psyker must rely entirely on Empathic Evasion and high-frequency crits to manually shut down gunner lines. Stop acting like you can handle it; from what I’ve seen, even on the HK servers, very few players can actually pull this off.
Are you a racist?
Being a racist means having irrational biases, I’ve just made a conclusion from facts.
Oh, us “Chinese players” are just the absolute worst, aren’t we? We’re out here uploading all those mods to Nexus and running macros on everything. I mean, I get it—if you didn’t frame our gameplay as some kind of “Eastern black magic” or cheating, you’d actually have to face the reality that you’re just plain bad. We’ll happily take the blame if it helps you sleep better and protects that fragile little ego of yours.
If we’re all just “macro dogs” as you claim, then it’s honestly embarrassing that you still can’t keep up with us. If we’re so “fake,” why are you still crawling onto the HK servers begging for a carry? It’s truly fascinating to watch you cry “cheater” on the forums while desperately clinging to our coattails in-game just to survive a run. Is this your idea of “skill”? It’s a masterpiece of hypocrisy.
I wish I got games as intense as you describe them while using Inferno and Deimos with Shriek
They gotta remove psyker from the game at this point, man. Complete lost cause.
What can I say？Accusing others of using macros just because you can’t do it yourself only shows how pathetic you are. if being a racist makes you feel better about your skills, then go ahead.
Then let me also try again because it seems you missed my actual point. Everyone knows about block cancelling, it is ludicrous to suggest people don’t know about it just because they’re suspicious of macros.
I’m sure you’re much more skilled than I am, I just think it’s very silly of you to make crazy assumptions about basic knowledge because other people in this thread disagree with you. People who can and have given you receipts that they are experienced Havoc 40 players.
Personally I would prefer these threads focus on actual balance philosophy rather than an endless back and forth of credentials.
But this type of thread is much more funny to read! Don’t go destroying my soap opera please
Listen, in our gaming community, accusing someone of using macros is a serious insult; it’s basically spitting on the hundreds of hours a hardcore player has spent perfecting their craft. Making such baseless claims isn’t just rude—it’s a confession of ignorance. These people take any mechanic they can’t execute or even comprehend and label it as a “script.” It’s a pathetic attempt to use mediocrity to judge excellence.
As you are such a fan of transparency why not just show a copy of your mod entries?
i just skipped to a random point in this and watched as you killed 20+ elites in a couple seconds with no risk cuz of purg+vent damage plus the stagger and safety they provide
if you were trying to prove how overpowered this is and how trivial it makes havoc, you sure proved that
Of course I can, but it may be 4 hours later.
Hello everyone. I am a player from China and also a moderator of the Warhammer 40,000: Darktide section on a Chinese community forum. I have over 2,600 hours of playtime and have completed more than 1,000 runs of Havoc 40. We have tried multiple times to contact Fatshark’s staff in charge of the Chinese region, but we have not received positive feedback (it seems this staff member is outsourced).
Before sharing my opinions on the changes in this update, I need to describe the environment of the Asian servers. If you think Havoc 40 is an extremely difficult difficulty level, players in the Chinese community share the same view. Yet most players still choose to challenge it. If they struggle to clear it, our large community helps each other out—supporting less experienced players to beat Havoc 40. I personally have helped over 100 players complete Havoc 40. Many of them I did not even know, but I saw it as a responsibility.
I do not have exact statistics, but from my extensive playtime, Havoc 40 is extremely popular on Asian servers. We believe Havoc 40 is not only for hardcore players but is accessible and worth attempting for all players. Any changes to class talents will significantly affect many players’ experience.
We Chinese players do not necessarily rely on the golden Toughness skills of the Veteran or Zealot, but these abilities greatly improve the margin for error in high-difficulty content. They are undoubtedly among the best optional skills available.
Regarding the Veteran—since I am a Veteran main with roughly 1,500 hours played, I will only discuss this class—weakening the cooldown of the Veteran’s vioce of command(VoC) drastically reduces the uptime of both Kill Zone and Marksman. This indirectly weakens the Veteran’s ability to deal high damage to enemies and further reduces the class’s survivability.
The side talents in the vioce of command branch are ridiculous. The frailest character in the team is supposed to help sturdier allies get back on their feet. In Warhammer: Vermintide 2, Markus Kruber had a similar ability and functioned as a powerful frontline anchor. Giving this skill to a ranged class with weak melee combat and poor survivability in Darktide is absurd.
In the Chinese gaming community, build crafting for normal modes is considered unimportant compared to Havoc 40. Therefore, we only care about how talent adjustments affect the highest difficulty. After all, a build that works for Havoc 40 can easily clear all lower difficulties. In other words, a Havoc 40-viable build is often the optimal solution, though not absolutely.
Fatshark stated that the Veteran would receive more improvements in 2025. In reality, the only buffs were minor tweaks to the talent tree—moving some underpowered or unreasonable talents up or down—while indirectly nerfing the Ultimate’s cooldown. The class did not receive reasonable power increases; instead, it was weakened further. I personally find this very hard to understand.
The new 50% ranged penetration buff added in the latest version still fails to allow most guns to penetrate multiple targets. The value should be much bolder—increased to 100%.
I also find Fatshark’s changes to the Plasma Gun highly unreasonable. Since most players use the Plasma Gun’s primary fire rather than its secondary fire, if you want to encourage use of the latter, why not simply buff the secondary fire? Instead, you keep adjusting penetration back and forth. In earlier versions, the Plasma Gun was buffed directly to 100% penetration—a blunt, unthoughtful buff that did not consider whether it would become overpowered.
As a PvE game, why do you keep weakening classes and indirectly ruining the player experience? Fatshark has consistently ignored the Chinese player base and even the entire Asian community, and this has left us deeply disappointed.
Thanks bro but I can beat havocs myself.
And you use a macro for Relic Blade stabs as they are done with the same perfect timing. Try throwing dust in somebody else’s eyes.
skill issue
Says a macro user