So, the Zealot

Yea, I was surprised just how effective it is, simple due to the backstab nodes carrying huge dmg potential.

Relic sword feels clunky as hell without reliable AS, but you can literally HP tank H40 and still oneshot a crusher from behind thanks to all the flat backstab bonuses.

I’ve tried converting it to a dash build as my prefered playstyle, but it’s nowhere near as effective, stealth + backstab nodes is really just that overtuned.

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This is one of the takes on darktide balance of all time xdd

which one is the original fatmangus? search on gameslantern finds 6 builds with small changes, 4 using stealths and 2 using fury.
also, faith’s fortitude on a non-martyrdom build? holy :poop: i can go down and get pulled out of the dirt!

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The dash version is in the video. It plays completely fine. The stealth one is better just because stealth gives more DR and is really strong right now, but the charge one is just a tankier version of normal IJ charge zealot

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For me zealot is the strongest class but I am a very aggressive player. Always want to be the first in the crusher wall and then continually bash my head through it.

You have to find a melee weapon on which you are comfortable. For me that is tac axe or thammer. Then you have to pick your ranged weapon to fill the weakness of your melee. For example running the relic blade leaves you open to ranged enemies, so a flamer would be the wrong thing to take as you can manage hordes and Armor plentiful with your melee. I would suggest the spewey lasgun on a crit build. And there is always a point to make for the boltgun… it just fits zealot even without abusing the throwing knife tech.

Do not sleep on shield of contempt, yet another skill that gets stronger the deeper you are in sh!t.

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Ive never been too big a fan of Shield of Contempt, it only applies to 1 teammate every 8 seconds, which means bots will waste it over and over until they die, and its just not as reliable as i would like

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Shiels of contempt is gambling gaming.

You can pick it for free if you don’t want cleave or backstabs (i usually run it with daggers and taxes). The trigger condition is rng, but the damage reduction is actually massive and saves lifes.

Why would you ever play with bots xdd

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no, thanks. we had enough of this.

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because the game forces you to have bots, no way to disable bots without soloplay mods

Because randoms in Auric leave games excessively and back-fill doesn’t work well. It isn’t a choice…

A problem I didn’t even know it exists… But granted it has been quite some time since I last saw a bot

I don’t know how to feel about Shield of Contempt. It seems polarizing in the community. I like being team support, and it probably does help reduce damage to you and/or your team pretty regularly. I just don’t like the random, unquantifiable nature of it.

I’ve been using it lately on my IJ build, just because IJ lacks the DR/TDR of the other keystones and I wanted to add as much DR into the build as I could. But it’s for sure not reliable in the same way as the other DR/TDR nodes, and I can’t really tell how much difference it’s making.

Hey all.

Just re-visiting these forums as my kids are now playing DarkTide ! (Steam Family accounts ftw - though sadly can’t play with them at the same time without shelling out big time).

So - in my day, Zealot was S-class with the bleed blessing and the proc-on-bleed talents. I can see the tree has changed since my days, but is this no longer a thing? Can you not get knife (or rapier), slot the various armour pen blessings and pick crit-on-bleed and bleed-on-hit skills and stay fairly toughness-tanked?

Before the Crusher/Mauler buff Zealot melted everything with the knife.
Knife still works fo the most part but DS became even more insane and Relic Blade is reaaally good now with the new talents (Against All Odds) especially with Martyrdom.
Speaking of whih Martyrdom could use a tweak on one of its nodes where you are hard locked into the minimum health needed for max stacks, but have extra dmg reduction to your health and cannot heal above it by any means.

Yeah you absolutely can. Knife is still great, just not one shot pogryns every few seconds great any more.

It’s not great at horde clear, but you can still absolutely stomp crushers with Fotf and blazing piety, or invalidate hordes entirely with IJ and precognition/riposte.

I hope they add Zealot back to the game. Class doesn’t have a blitz skill, its capstones are negligible at worst and gimmicky at best, it can’t do anything to armor spam (the only real difficulty in the game), its ranged weapon choices are almost wholly worthless, its +damage talents requiring jumping through weird hoops nobody else has to.

at least it has ‘can take would-be-fatal-damage once every 3 minutes and survive’ though. that’s really valuable if your entire party of more powerful characters screws up I guess. =/

As I’ll always say, replace Unseen blade from +15% backstab damage to +10% True weakspot strength and Zealot will be back on the menu (also fix Until Death triggering even if no HP dmg is taken when you’re at 1 hp so we’re not forced to pick Holy Revenant)

Edit: keystones are good tho? Idk why you think he needs too much buffing, just replacing that one talent alone should be good

I genuinely can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic. Every single one of those things is just not true.

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