It’s funny, I can hardly believe you think the FS store is an optimised online shopfront (but if you do please tell me so I can have a good laugh). Plus you make a lot of assumptions about me, which are wrong.
Here are some of the ways the story is screw-y:
limited rotation with limited slots
Unavailable digital assets
Artificial digital scarcity (um, see above, it’s an NFT-level move)
Inflation of Acquilas
Disappearance of items from sale permnently
Duplicate cosmetics (at a higher price, no less)
repeat items in the supposedly fomo store (anyone remember the witches hands)
And here are the ways in which FS is getting screwed:
no money from principled individuals (May the wind always be at yer back)
Bad rep, driving away potential customers
no money from others
Their rotation increments at a different rate than their content, therefore their player count peaks
So as someone marginally involved in the ecommerce space it makes my eye twitch with how mismanaged the operation is. The other eye keeps a-twitchin’ when the woodlouse come out and try to tell me it’s a lost cause (sorry mate, dog meet bone).
There are a lot of methodologies that are completely thrown out the window here in the name of goodness-knows-what (oh wait pretty sure it’s “fomo works”). I won’t bother listing them out (yet?) or linking papers (yet…..?) but if you think all I’m saying is fomo DOESN’T work I think we have bigger fish to fry
I do just have to laugh and shake my head when anyone defends the FS store despite its gaping flaws under the swiss cheese umbrella of “fomo works” though
All you Jonny-Come-Latelies missed out on all the season’s hottest drip because you were too busy protesting on the forums. Rotation after Rotation, just kept protesting.
Instead of buying McDonald’s and beer every week, how about you just get some Aquilas?
They’re a much healthier alternative and you can actually have something to show for it.
Where’s those Big Mac meals you bought? Oh wait, they’re sitting around your waistline
No, but for real. Stop blowing your money on fast food and garbage and funnel it into the things you wish you had (like cosmetics). Because the rotation ain’t going away anytime soon.
While I’m with you about the constant protests around optional cosmetics, I have to interject that healthy food usually is more expensive than unhealthy food in most countries.
Kind of off the topic but- Food deserts are a real problem (especially in the first world), however, this is not completely accurate. If you have (travel) access to a local market you can spend the same amount on a week’s worth of healthy food ingredients as a couple days worth of grocery processed packaged slop or extremely overpriced reconstituted corn syrup we call fast food. Source: been doing that for 5 years now within a food desert.
btw, will the current rotation be model for the future? that’s 1 new and 1 old set?
at least it takes less time for some old sets to rotate back. you always have this “been waiting for this for 2 years” vs “recycled slop” on reddit and this should improve the situation. however it’s again one of these half-measures.
Yeah, honestly I feel the rotation doesn’t make sense when offer few options and less if the skins haven’t been available for 2 years like some bundles or even 3 years like Daethwolrd Splinter Camo. I hope the current format from the latest rotation stay in the future to reduce the time and have more diversity in the shop at least.
amazing how people will turn their brains off and somehow claim that time limited stock that isn’t time limited for any actual reason is anything but intentionally engineered fomo
i really wanna pick into your brain @Padds do you think they’re running out of fabric to sell or what? do you think each 3d model has to be seperately made? it boggles the mind
I would like to give Fatshark money for certain cosmetics but I can’t because of store rotation nonsense. Having the store this way is literally leaving revenue on the table.
i do argue this store doesn’t meet the criteria for fomo as it was defined. i think its just being used as a pejorative because people don’t like it, simply having a rotating stock of a limited inventory is not what defines fomo.
Fomo was always about high pressure sales techniques, 2 hour flash sales with countdowns of rapidly depleting availability to put you under instant buy now or miss out while validating the purchase by implying others are buying it at volume and pace.
3 week windows is simply too long to count as high pressure sales.
My guess is this, it was an original feature and just about all extrinsic original features were half arsed and have had to be redone and the store was simply the lowest priority and one day we will probably see it getting revamped.
but if we want to attribute the store methodology to a sales technique, it is way closer to a paradox of choice than fomo.
but i think it just being half arsed is the most likely cause.
so im sorry the store is causing you to feel anxiety that your missing out, King ass ripper
maybe its only not working on me because my brain is off
edit - forgot to point this out.
do you actually think in a fomo store selling real physical items they are actually running out of stock? never noticed the sale ends and the items are still available? it is core to a fomo sale that the amount being sold is arbitrarily low and not stock based.
if you say so but “3 weeks or maybe never again” is massive pressure for a collector or anyone who just wants the looks available to him
seems kinda arbitrary to decide it’s available for 3 weeks so nobody will be afraid of missing out on them
also lol at the implication that the store was an afterthought, the store was always the main feature of darktide and is the only thing that released completed
well thats a simple reading error. i didnt say afterthought. i said all extrinsic systems were half arsed as in not fit for release rushed placeholders. which is why they have all been seeing complete overhauls as time goes on. its subjective of course but id say the moment to moment intrinsic gameplay at launch was by far the best most developed part.
LOL i guess.
even if i we give you this one it still doesn’t make the store fit any other criteria of a FOMO store.
Seriously go look up the term in the original studies and find the pillars that define it.
if we say time isn’t a factor now, it’s just about collectors missing out or the looks available to them, now every single clothing shop in the world is a fomo store, they rotate stock on a seasonal basis and fashions change so often you miss that one seasonal window that item probably wont ever be back.
It simply isnt the scarcity referred to by FOMO , if the shop had a number of each item that ticked down rapidly with short time limit that is fomo scarcity , it is defined by being designed to induce anxiety provide social validation and exploit impulse control
true but this is the point really, someone feeling some way is not the same as a store deigned to induce that feeling.
a FOMO store is a store designed to induce anxiety , it uses false scarcity and short time limits to both make something seem highly desirable and worth purchasing the ticking down of the numbers available indicate other humans buying it at pace, confirming you are right to buy it. but you have to act NOW or you will miss out.
The point is to exploit our impulse buying, to get you to buy things you normally if given say three weeks to think about it wouldn’t. but yet everyone is saying the opposite about the DT store in that it is stopping them buying things they do want.
I just did and your definitions are a bit skewed. It just needs a limited time offer. 6 weeks is technically a limited time offer AND acts as a countdown. So that’s 2 ticks from the checklist which is enough of a definition. You could argue that 6 weeks is actually very short especially considering many people only get paid once every 4 weeks. So they only get to decide on some of the items per rotation if any at all that month.
Also your comparison to season clothing is crazy. Seasonal clothing changes because clothing habits and requirements change during seasons as well as their suppliers wanting to shift new seasonal clothes that they’ve been making in the previous season. It is TOTALLY different to an e-commerce digital only store.
You keep comparing apples and oranges.
We have also seen much shorter “special" limited time deals that lasted only 1 rotation (2 week).
I’m not about to dig into papers because I honestly don’t need to — there’s really no need for such pedantry around the time it takes to qualify as FOMO or not. Here’s a lovely summary I found on the internet which I think we can all agree on:
When a customer weighs their buying decision, FOMO marketing nudges them toward action. That internal dialogue, “Should I get this now or wait?” can quickly turn into, “I’ll regret it if I don’t.” This sense of urgency can lead to impulse purchases, even for products they didn’t initially plan to buy.
WHERE THIS FITS IN TO DARKTIDE is that FS INTENTIONALLY MADE THE STORE TO OPERATE in a fashion which is MORE FOMO INDUCING than your average seasonal fashion rotation (which yeah is absolutely a degree fomo, there’s a scale to all of this obviously).
WHY PEOPLE ARE ANNOYED is that FS HAS (more or less, I’ll throw ‘em a bone cuz corps can be restricting) COMPLETE CONTROL over this rotation making it insultingly, obviously limiting.
WHAT IS SO IRONIC is that the store is arguably if not probably from our POV so limiting that it’s preventing more sales than it’s providing. I feel like this is the only shade of grey here, but we can only guess at the people(s) in charge of eCommerce’s KPI’s.
So far I have yet to tire of reiterating my staunch opinion that their transparent fleecing of players and frankly ridiculous level of artificial scarcity is textbook fin-shooting behaviour that oughta change, but I gotta say counteracting gaslighting on what constitutes ‘fomo’ is a new and heady brew… caps off to ya
