Scab shooters without the gas mask not being highlighted by Veteran's Counterfire is "not-a-bug"

[Deisu]

They feel like they got hotswapped last second and were meant for something else. Hope that something is made one day.

As an aside the bayonets on scab shooter’s gun is in the wrong spot.

[Rainman]

they’re following wwii soviet squad strategies, where one guy gets a gun and everybody else carries his ammo

[Roibr]

@FatsharkQuickpaw

So I asked the devs for clarification on why this enemy was excluded, the reasoning is that the feat is intended to highlight the longer ranged enemies, such as the scab riflemen. The scab currently excluded is instead more of a short-range fighter.

Done

@Flawless

@Roibr

Scab Stalkers have lighter Armor, seems they are scouts in that regard. Would make sense them being Comboed with Swords and not just bayonets in case they would get spotted especially at close range.

@Roibr

So now my argument its totally fine, the one which was not an argument at all in the first place, but Pointing something out! ^^

Dreg stalkers have no armor at all and also do not have bayonets, but use combat shovels instead.

So no. Your initial argument absolutely makes no sense.

Scabs not Dregs if you read properly.
Dregs have shovels casue they are not military. Scabs Version has a sword, as you can see clearly there is no Bayonet on the weapon

[Roibr]

@Rocker_Fox

@Roibr

Lighter Armor does not reflect it?
Hes a Stalker/ Scout, and of course they have lighter Armor.
How can that not be stalthier?
What do you want exactly a Shinobi running around?
Never seen Scouts running around in Ghillie Suits, excepts they are Snipers, so ur Point is invalid iMHO.

This is such a reach but I’m going to entertain it anyways. Saying that scab stalkers have lighter armor is fairly laughable considering they have a full flak plate on the chest and a steel helm.

This man is dressed up like a discount krieg trench raider. There is nothing really light about the armour itself he is just missing sleeves.

When I say “light armoured assault troops” I think Tallarn Raiders.

Generally as well notice how they actually blend into their environment and don’t just look like every other guardsman.

I know you are going “hurr hurr what do you want, camo?” but this isn’t exactly a far reach considering various minis on scout / assault troops

Oh look, a camo helmet wrap, exactly what I was talking about right there. Cloaks, helmets with camo coverings based off Nam / other conflicts, lighter head wraps, a leather helmet cover, darker grey camo for pants / arms to blend in, you know, anything to actually visually convey this supposed “stealth bonus” you keep talking about.

Even then if they are supposed to be “assault troops” it run entirely counter to the idea of them being stealthy so this just goes back to my original point of the enemy design for them being a mess.

1. OH lOOk exactly the same Color Scheme, interesting. But yore right its totally different XD
   So what is such a Reach… ^^

2. Since when is Flak Armor not considered a Light Armor IRL ?!

3. “No Armor” is considered Light Armor for you like with Tallarn… interesting

4. Blood Red Armor is blending into Environment/ Desert for you, ooookay…

@Roibr

Maybe FS thought that Dregs are “normal” Peopz and not military and have not learned skills to hide and “stalk” Prey?! ever thought about that.
Or its a bug which is probably not since they stated that with stalkers a while ago and ywouldnt have left out the dreg Stalkers, makes no sense. Its on purpose!

This is also, again, a reach and even runs counter to your whole “they are named different so they work differently” idea.

You don’t have a good defence for it working the way it currently does so now you are just making up excuses counter to even your own argument.

Nope again

@FatsharkQuickpaw

So I asked the devs for clarification on why this enemy was excluded, the reasoning is that the feat is intended to highlight the longer ranged enemies, such as the scab riflemen. The scab currently excluded is instead more of a short-range fighter.

So we good man. Since i only pointed out like i said and you wanted to be just in the right and blow off steam for Mechanics nobody understood why.

[zaygr]

This thread was made to point out why it seems inconsistent to have a shooter enemy not be highlighted. Your reasons for why they aren’t highlighted are just opinions too, in the same way a lot of us thinking that it’s a design flaw or something done in error are expressing our opinions of it too.

What isn’t an opinion is that the feat description is still misleading as it describes all shooters.

[Flawless]

@Roibr

Scabs not Dregs if you read properly.

Reading properly, is advice that you should take yourself.

I did not claim that you were talking about dreg stalkers using shovels.
I mentioned the name and behavior of dreg stalkers that use no bayonets, because you made a faulty argument based on the name and behavior of scab stalkers using no bayonets.

If you looked at my post that you responded to, the quote that you took out of context, was followed up with:

@Flawless

So no. Your initial argument absolutely makes no sense.

@Roibr

FS said that they will not be highlighted due to their Name and Function Buddy.

Hes a Stalker makes sense you cant highlight since they are good with stealth so to speak!

I have never seen anyone from FS make the „different name“ argument.
But you make it here and it makes no sense, as it is inconsistent with the other Stalker being highlighted as it should be.

I explained to you multiple times already, that „stalker name“ and „melee weapon use“ can not possibly have anything to do with it since dreg stalkers have the same stalker name and melee weapon use as scab stalkers, but are highlighted.

But after you have ignored all reason multiple times, and have pulled false reasons out of your behind multiple times, then completely misrepresented what i said (again)…
No point in trying to reason with you at all.

You are not playing by the same rules as i am.
You are not even playing the same game as i am.
You just ignore everything and claim to be victorious.