Seriously fat shark, this wasn’t a fix, it wasn’t even close to a fix… Just remove the damn restrictions so I can get malleus monstronum done already. You must have some poor intern locked in a closet somewhere that can release a hot fix or something.
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Or introduce solo game mode.
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i’m very not amused that these penances locked behind a private game are the only i need for the “master of war” title for psyker and zealot (malleus monstronum and just a flesh wound).
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YES we bloody NEED THIS ALREADY!
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They originally weren’t limited to private games (I lucked out and got them all back then). Then people demanded they be locked behind private games. So Fatshark listened to them and did it.
So they can’t very well undo it as it was done to satisfy complaints in the first place. The forums start to get a bit schizophrenic about some of these issues. “Do X!”, Fatshark does X, “Undo X!”
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Don’t people still group up in Discord for these?
OR (saying this for the umpteenth time) get a weekly trial for GamePass and launch it on a 2nd device (including cloud client like a tablet), play with yourself and profit.
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i play since the beta and remember that too. people were ruining the games of others with their penances, hence the private games. they’re actually trivial with a premade, but good luck finding someone . in the end, those tasks are just not well thought out and should be replaced.
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Or maybe, instead, they could have re balanced the penance’s, instead of sweeping them under the rug.
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They did.
Massively.
Some of the penances were quite difficult, which was fine, but some people complained about teammates griefing by trying to do those penances in pubs (although i never noticed that as an"issue" myself).
My assumption is, that some people simply saw bad behavior and blamed it on the penances, since those were the new thing that could be blamed at the time.
So first FS made some of the penances private only.
Then they nerfed them multiple times.
Now they are very easy and it makes no sense at all for them to be private only.
Especially the psyker penance, which used to be actually difficult (initially it was “remove 100% of a bosses hp with brain burst”, then 90%, now 50% iirc) is now a joke.
They made it so easy, that you would likely get it accidentally within 3 missions or so, if it was not limited to private matches. Also, we have demon hosts now, which make it even easier, since the player with agro will usually deal barely any damage to them.
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They’ve been reworked several times since then and aren’t as terrible as they once were (Just A Flesh Wound used to be 10 minutes so could only be gotten through cheese or exploits, Brain burst required 100% then 90% so practically impossible though normal play).
Plus there remain numerous other borderline griefer penances that don’t require a private group.
@ brainburst: 50% ? ok, pop a blue stim, smack a weakened one and hope your randos are happily going ham with their dueling swords on poxwalkers in the meantime.
as for ruining missions for penances, i remember 3 guys jumping off the platform at the start of excise vault repeatedly in order to cheese the “rescue x operatives” penances. i had that one already legit and didn’t know wtf they were doing, watched them some time and left, and i guess nothing of value was lost.
hab dreyko had a shortcut where one could jump onto the stairs to the left of the first airlock and bypass the grate. actually a clever thing but it got closed as it was kind of hard to agree on.
They are definitely better than they were in beta lol. So like you said, WHY ARE THEY PRIVATE, these are so doable now!
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Maybe they like to troll the playerbase with unobtainable penances?
Forever you see that 57/60 when you open the penance screen, gnawing at you eternally.
That is the true price of repentance 
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Haha maybe, guess fat shark are just a bunch of night lords.
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“Finally! Now without the speedrunning penance, Zealots will stop running way ahead and dying. Wait, what are they… oh no”
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The problem is that most of these penances consisted of asking your teammates not to kill enemies so that you could do the penance. And I say this as someone who did all the class penances before the rework.
Psyker’s is “please do not hit the boss I need to kill it all by myself”
Ogryn’s is “please stop killing the horde/enemy Ogryn so that I can charge through them for the penance”
Vet’s accuracy penance is less about actually being accurate and more about finding the fastest way to shoot all of your ammo into a tanky enemy and then playing the rest of the mission melee only.
The grenade penance consists of throwing a grenade at a 30 ° angle over and over until you get it.
Very little mechanical skill involved, the only reason you would ever need a Discord call for these is because you cannot ask the bots not to kill stuff.
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Not to mention that even when Ogryn’s restriction was first placed it was easy to get without effort. They nerfed the penance to be like, 4 Ogryns and increased the Ogryn spawn numbers so getting 4 is something that could be easily done in normal play.
Clearly, the only reason that was restricted was because the other 3 operators had restricted penances and they wanted it to be even-stevens or something.
Maybe. But I recall, back in the days of very rare elites and even rarer ogryns, the strat for that one was to have someone agile and speedy run ahead as far as possible and try to aggro a total of 6 ogryns in different rooms (there was a good chance you couldn’t) and then die on purpose. They would run back to the player ogryn who could now charge through them at leisure.
Maybe they felt that was worth the “private-only” tag.
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I mean, it was still possible to get before they nerfed the penance and buffed the spawns. I got mine with a lucky Hi-Int Damnation match. But then they nerfed the penance and buffed the spawns. And then they made it private. If they had swapped those around I’d be more inclined to agree. But by the time private only tags rolled around it was too much too late.
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But i neeeeeeed that penance. I NEEEEED IT.
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