Refund HIvescum

We don’t pay for a paid DLC for it to be nerfed, it’s not our fault you guys aren’t capable of making things good. Arbites change was understandable after it first came out but changing pickpocket on hivescum??? It nerfs it on all builds, affects how it will be played and for what reason? because the name of the talent is “pickpocket” then rename the talent to something else instead of changing how it functions or give everyone who paid for the class a refund. This will be reported to steam and the BBB.

I hope this is satire, LOL.

If Fatshark wants to make changes to a dlc class that is paid for, there should be an option to refund it no matter what, we already pay for the game, there is no warning anywhere that things will be changed, steam and the BBB always has the consumers back.

Its time limited to refund anything, but it’s just kind of funny that you’re being this big a pissbaby about it. What’s next? They change another small aspect on another class; do you want another refund then? lmao. Besides, getting unlimited ammo is pretty OP.

太可惜了,真令人难过.

i love forums when patch notes drop, you get comedy like this

I’m planning on refunding too if the changes go trough, let me know if you succeed.

So you did pay only to get an OP class?

You deserve this.

It’s funny since you also said “arbites nerf was understandable”, how come it’s not okay when it’s Hive Scum?

Actually the EULA does outline that from what I just dug up.

”We may provide patches, updates, or upgrades to the Services that must be installed in order for you to continue to use the Services…and you hereby consent to us applying such patches, updates, and upgrades”

You will own nothing and be happy about it ahh eula.

Me when there’s, like, two minor nerfs in my buff salad ahh.

I think there’s an interesting point buried in here. It’s an open secret that releasing new content in an overpowered state helps to sell it, which has a detrimental effect on the game as a whole.

However the most immediate solution to this is to not engage, which evidently does not happen. I can’t believe I’m defending DT as a Live Service, but you shouldn’t be surprised that (or feel entitled to a refund when) such changes are made.

I don’t mean to cast aspersions – I could see how the Pickpocket change would more significantly effect players who value shooting in quantities that more closely resemble the gameplay of an FPS than a tide game. That’s my nice way of saying it.

Pickpocket was a method of granting close to 100% gun uptime, a gameplay aspect the merits of which have been HOTLY debated since launch. Chiefly because there are people who want that experience in Darktide. Players who may have bought Scum because they could have the gunplay they always wanted may be disproportionately affected by the patch notes. Reminds me of the Veteran threads when they nerfed Survivalist.

Though I stand by the change as a positive to gameplay balance and welcome it accordingly, the tin-foil hatted gremlin inside me is saying there’s a non-zero chance that this was intentional.

Solution: Be Ogryn :grin:

Look at me. Look at me. I am the Twink Gun Lugger now.

I can understand as to why some would get a little upset with the change. Only because they love this style of play & sure, I get it. They have the most fun constantly shooting rather than engaging with any enemy mechanics in melee. From my point of view, I feel that this is pretty cheap & cheesy just to do that & essentially you walk through the map being safe from a distance with ranged, because there’s little risk at all making any mission a cakewalk. This game doesn’t really strike me as Call of Duty if you catch my drift. The melee in this game is somewhat unique in a sense & I do find it interesting to engage with. So, the slight nerf in my mind… I don’t find to be a big deal, I mean you’re still getting unlimited ammo, you just need to kill something with melee every so often to get the ammo restored. I mean for christ sakes… Scum is still one of the strongest classes next to wizard boy. I just don’t understand why some people want everything to be easy street in this game. Like, they want to win with little to no risk at all. The changes absolutely make sense in my mind for what it is & it’s still one of the strongest passives in the game.

it’s just legalese for “the game will get patches and will change from release state onwards”

unless you want the game to stay as it did on release day and never get changed or updated this is just how it is and how it’s gonna read in an EULA. I say this as someone who fully agrees that ownership rights have been diminished and the “owning nothing” utterly sucks but that’s a mostly separate topic than what that particular part of the EULA is covering.

why they haven’t done this to arbiter yet? noobs are still immortal in high difficulties with the arbiter cheat dlc hive scum and arbi both need a lot more nerfs

We may provide new cosmetics for Hive Scum… Where? :winking_face_with_tongue:

so I got the solution all those years after all :rofl:

after each honeymoon phase, both dlc felt “dirty” when getting the end results, melee scum a bit less for it at least rewarded twitch reflexes.

but seeing them oh so skilled players shiver at the thought of adjusting their op toys to fit with the rest that actually put in the works….

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almost better than outdamaging a rocket launcher gun scum as ogryn :squinting_face_with_tongue:

I never rub those scores in their noses after a match, but hot damn, these op-only players sure need a reality check

Disregarding that the hive scum nerf was deserved, I’d love if games especially like Darktide just let you revert versions and play the version you enjoyed with your friends via dedicated server. This used to be the industry standard, now we have games as a disservice. OP would be happy to play an unnerfed hive scum (and I would be happy to play a version of the game before hive scum released)

Hopefully the whole stop killing games stuff comes through before Darktide sunsets, the custom server scene will be very interesting

quake 3 orange smoothie cpm mode remembers :saluting_face:

you wanted to compete, you better had the correct version at the ready and used for training, otherwise it was a rude awakening :smiley: