Poll about preferred weapon by class / weapons rating

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/!\ Poll for ranged weapons of zealot had to be deleted and recreated - Please vote again if you had voted previously.

HOW DOES IT WORK?

  1. Polls can have a maximum of 20 options. So polls could not have all weapons proposed
  2. There are 2 polls categories: Preferred weapons by class and Weapons rating (category and by weapon when needed)

Preferred weapon means the weapons you prefer at the moment. Not the ones you would like to use if FS would fix them, “eventually”, in the future.

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Preferred weapons by class

Type: bar - Min choice: 1 - Max choices: 3

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VETERAN

What are your 3 most preferred ranged weapon for the veteran?
  • Braced Autogun
  • Combat Shotgun
  • Headhunter Autogun
  • Heavy Laspistol
  • Helbore Lasgun
  • Infantry Autogun
  • Infantry Lasgun
  • Plasma Gun
  • Quickdraw Stub Revolver
  • Recon Lasgun
  • Shredder Autopistol
  • Spearheard Boltgun
0 voters
What are your 3 most preferred melee weapon for the veteran?
  • Assault Chainsword
  • Chainaxe
  • Combat Axe
  • Combat Blade
  • “Devil’s Claw” Sword
  • Power Sword
  • Sapper Shovel
  • Tactical Axe
0 voters

ZEALOT

What are your 3 most preferred ranged weapon for the zealot?
  • Braced Autogun
  • Combat Shotgun
  • Heavy Laspistol
  • Headhunter Autogun
  • Infantry Autogun
  • Infantry Lasgun
  • Purgation Flamer
  • Quickdraw Stub Revolver
  • Spearheard Boltgun
  • Shredder Autopistol
0 voters
What are your 3 most preferred melee weapon for the zealot?
  • Assault Chainsword
  • Chainaxe
  • Combat Axe
  • Combat Blade
  • Crusher
  • “Devil’s Claw” Sword
  • Eviscerator
  • Heavy Sword
  • Tactical Axe
  • Thunder Hammer
0 voters

PSYKER

What are your 3 most preferred ranged weapon for the psyker?
  • Headhunter Autogun
  • Heavy Laspistol
  • Infantry Autogun
  • Infantry Lasgun
  • Purgatus Force Staff
  • Quickdraw Stub Revolver
  • Recon Lasgun
  • Shredder Autopistol
  • Surge Force Staff
  • Trauma Force Staff
  • Voidstrike Force Staff
0 voters
What are your 3 most preferred melee weapon for the psyker?
  • Assault Chainsword
  • Blaze Force Sword
  • Combat Axe
  • Combat Blade
  • “Devil’s Claw” Sword
  • Duelling Sword
  • Tactical Axe
0 voters

OGRYN

What are your 3 most preferred ranged weapon for the ogryn?
  • Grenadier Gauntlet
  • Kickback
  • Ripper Gun
  • Rumbler
  • Twin-linked Heavy Stubber
0 voters
What are your 3 most preferred melee weapon for the ogryn?
  • Battle Maul & Slab Shield
  • Bully Club
  • Cleaver
  • Latrine Shovel
  • Power Maul
0 voters

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Weapons rating (category and by weapon when needed)

Type: number rating - Rating 1-Too bad / 2-Bad / 3-Average / 4-Good / 5-Too good

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What do you think about the Agripinaa Braced autoguns (MKVIII)?
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What do you think about the Columnus Braced autoguns (MKII)?
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What do you think about the Graia Braced autoguns (MKIV)?
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What do you think about the Headhunter autoguns (burst fire) (MKIII or MKVIII)?
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What do you think about the Headhunter autogun MKVII?
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What do you think about the Infantry autoguns (category)?
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What do you think about Spearhead Boltgun?
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What do you think about Catachan Sword (category)?
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What do you think about the Chainaxes (category)?
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What do you think about the Chainswords (category)?
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What do you think about Ogryn’s Cleavers (category)?
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What do you think about Ogryn’s Clubs (category)?
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What do you think about the Combat Axes (category)?
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What do you think about Combat Blade?
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What do you think about the Crusher (Indignatus MK IVe Crusher)?
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What do you think about Agripinaaa Combat Shotgun?
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What do you think about Kantrael Combat Shotgun?
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What do you think about Lawbringer Combat Shotgun?
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What do you think about Duelling Swords (category)?
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What do you think about the Eviscerator?
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What do you think about Flamer?
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What do you think about Force Staff Purgatus?
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What do you think about Force Staff Surge?
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What do you think about Force Staff Trauma?
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What do you think about Force Staff Voidstrike?
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What do you think about Deimos Force Sword?
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What do you think about Illisi Force Sword?
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What do you think about Obscurus Force Sword?
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What do you think about Grenadier Gauntlet?
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What do you think about Ogryn’s Heavy Stubber?
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What do you think about Heavy Swords (category)?
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What do you think about Helbore Lasguns (category)?
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What do you think about Infantry Lasguns MGIa?
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What do you think about Infantry Lasguns MGIV?
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What do you think about Infantry Lasguns MGXII?
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What do you think about Laspistol?
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What do you think about Ogryn’s Latrine Shovel?
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What do you think about Sapper Shovel?
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What do you think about Ogryn’s Slab Shield?
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What do you think about Kickback?
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What do you think about Plasma Gun?
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What do you think about Ogryn’s Power Maul (category)?
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What do you think about the Power Swords (category)?
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What do you think about Recon Lasguns (category)?
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What do you think about Revolver?
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What do you think about Ripper Guns (category)?
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What do you think about Rumbler?
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What do you think about Shredder Autopistol?
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What do you think about Tactical Axes (category)?
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What do you think about Crucis Thunder Hammer?
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What do you think about Ironhelm Thunder Hammer?
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You forgot the Shredder Autopistol option for zealot.

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As we cannot modify a poll… I had to remove it and create a new poll for ranged weapon of zealots.

But now, the option is added.

Thanks for the report :wink:

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great poll

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Wow, looking at those weapon ratings I gotta say people are criminally underrating the Vraks HH Autos. The III especially is so damn good.

Edit: Just realised you grouped the Vraks III With the Agrip HH. @Ralendil what were you smoking? The former of those is fantastic while the latter is garbage. Why on earth would you group them together.

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Nice try Agent Nerfbatson, you won’t get me to expose my favorite weapons this time :disguised_face:

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Ironic, I really love the laspistol and perform excellent with it while I don’t really like the autopistol, never been able to do a good job with it.

Maybe I don’t have the right blessings?

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You kind of need Blaze Away and Pinning Fire on an autopistol, if you have those two blessings it’s really good, without, eh

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Thanks for the poll!
And that’s the problem with the weapons as we must all be more or less biased, based on what blessings we managed to get on specific weapons.
And thanks to FS that’s also dependent on how many zillion hours and ingame mats we were able to spend. Terrible RNG systems makes for terrible game experience in that regard.

(also kudos to all the FS fellas who worked on making so many weapons so much fun to use - visuals, sound effects, mechanics, etc. Some of them are just awesome in that 40k depiction)

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The poll, like the last one I did, has two part.
First part is objective, we collect datas about what players prefer to use.
Second part is purely subjective as we ask how a weapon is perceived by all players.

Let’s say that I would want that we collect enough vote (at least 100) to get something really significative. But, the subjective part give an information about what players perceive like too strong or too weak…
In the too weak we find the shield (what a suprise!), the MG Ia (the weapon that run out of ammo before killing anything), Recon lasgun (assurely good on… malice), the evis (great design, poor efficiency), the lawgringer shotgun (outclassed by other shotguns), the crusher (great for crowd control, bad for killing anything), chainswords and chainaxes (no comment), catachan swords (worst weapon in my opinion) and revolver (what can we say? really bad weapon with low ammo reserve)…
I would say that… I agree with the players perception. These weapons are obviously weak.

REMINDER: If you voted when the thread was created, you may need to vote again for your 3 favorite zealot ranged weapons

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Just FYI, that’s not what I took that to mean at all. When you asked which weapons I prefer, I just thought you meant which ones I liked, not which ones I use the most. I love the chain axe on zealot for example, but I hardly ever use it. Same goes for plasma on veteran, and probably a few others. There’s some overlap there, sure, but the two are not necessarily the same.

I appreciate the poll, but I think a little more precision with your use of language could have gone a long way here. The so-called “objective” part of your poll may not be as objective as you think.

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Well, you may be right… however when I spelled “preferred” I have think… what you prefer to use, not what you would maybe one day prefer to use if FS would eventually fix the weapon.

You can, always, change your vote.

I will add a precision…

EDIT: precision added

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Great poll!

One thing to keep in mind when it comes to use statistic: How easy/likely is it to get “the best/useable version” of said item. Sadly this is worth considering since the RNG is so f*cked.

There is a lot that goes into personal prefference not only how good / bad an item is.
I know that’s what the 2nd part is there for. There is also no option to seperate some weapons from their blessings and in some cases that’s what makes or breaks a weapon.

It will not just be as easy as to see the rating of a weapon being above 4 and then deem that that weapon is too good or a rating below 4 and say that that weapon is too bad.

I wonder what a poll on blessings would look like :thinking:

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Consider them from their potential.
I never used a shield on my ogryn, but I can see how someone using it is less effective in a team (that’s maybe the only weapon I have not tested)…

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My tastes really are somewhat eclectic.

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One day the Chaxe enjoyers eill no longer be an oppressed minority…

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Chain axe is badass. Blood god approved. * :drop_of_blood:*

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Excepted the flamer, I think that the results we get here are really accurate. When we check best weapons we get:

  • Illisi Force Sword 4.56
  • Ogryn’s Cleavers 4.54
  • Infantry Lasguns MGXII 4.51
  • Combat Axes 4.49
  • Spearhead Boltgun 4.46
  • shredder autopistol 4.27
  • Heavy Stubber 4.16
  • Deimos Force Sword 4.11
  • Heavy Swords 4.11

I must say that, in my opinion, the Obscurus is the best FS. However, I always prefer to get a versatile weapon. But the list here is exactly the weapons considered as the strongest.

At the opposite, we can see the worst weapons.

I hope that it could help FS to see the perception of the players. Revolver is really seen as… bad. Lawbringer shotgun also. Lasgun MG Ia, how this weapon can get above 2? Who really think this weapon can be seriously used?
The MG IV, ok… but MG Ia???

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Very true.
People like weapon stronk.
It creates a disconnect between what I’m feeling using a weapon and the impact in game, even when I’m using a conceptually satisfying weapon.

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Thank you for putting this poll together, I’m sure it was a lot of work and it is fascinating to hear the thoughts of the community this way. With that said I’m not terribly surprised by the results, especially for Ogryn which I’m most familiar with.

Hopefully Fatshark look at this and come back with some balance changes to get the numbers closer. I think it’s pretty clear that the way weapons area budgeted between damage vs stagger / no of targets hit vs damaged / horde vs armour effectiveness that there’s some simple trends in desirability.