A legally distinct Exterminator Shotgun would be PERFECT for the Vet. Lore-wise they do have access to similar portable cannons. Or have the Onslaught-Perk proc on pellet instead of shot at least… PLEASE!
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Combat shotguns need to be reworked, they’re still abysmal. Agripinaa is supposedly the high damage, precise shotgun yet the slug does a max damage of 677 to Carapace on Weakspot Critical, whereas the Zarona stub revolver does 824 on a weakspot Crit with Blessings that actually make getting a Crit against Carapace enemies significantly easier.
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It is necessary to improve the combat shotguns, they have become better since the previous patch, but the damage is still embarrassing. I totally agree with the comment above. Can you still improve the special attacks of other shotguns?
They could have just buffed the combat shotgun so all classes could use it, but instead they made a new shotgun which outperforms all the others and gave it to an already OP class.
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the new shotguns feel like they are explicitly just the “better” versions of the two lighter shotguns, one has an inbuilt duckbill spread (with better damage!) and the other has a tightly grouped armour pen shot that is so close to being the same as the slug
I have managed to kill so many things at once by just dumping my shotgun tube out that the game had overlapping congratulation barks from other characters and i didn’t think that was possible
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The shotguns are all extremely good at everything else, but sure. Buff it to kill crushers or something. Carapace doesn’t matter.
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Extremely good in a vacuum or extremely good with 80%+ of the Talent Tree dedicated just to the shotgun? Let me guess, Weapon Specialist with Manstopper.
That’s not “good” that’s just a meme for skilled players that can compensate for all of combat shotguns many flaws through excellent melee.
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Agri with full bore and no respite is pretty good in auric
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I’ll have to give that setup a try on my Psyker. Hopefully it’s good at putting down Ragers, Specialists and Gunners with efficient ammo usage. Recommendations for the second perk?
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I have flak maniac on mine just remember to bring something else for crushers cause it will do nothing but stagger to them.
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Yeah I figured as much. Could be good if paired with Tac Axe, Greatsword or Shock Maul for Crushers, will have to test it. You didn’t mention maulers, I guess with flak and the Blessing setup it puts in solid work on them?
Yeah you can body shoot them to death in a pinch though I usualy treat them as crushers and melee them.
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i’ve found the shotguns pretty effective in crit builds for psyker, but they are probably not the optimal choice.
I don’t play manstopper, I use no respite and full bore on pretty much every build. I’m probably one of a very few group of people who play’s mmf exe stance with the shotguns as well. Agrip gets oneshot crit kills on crushers with that build, but you can easily room clear with any other shotgun as well.
Sorry that builds matter and make the difference for weapons rather than being entirely carried by a busted stat line. If you want that though just play arbites.
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Yeah, these are called Meat Grinder warriors.
“Just stack all the damage buff possible and roll for crit, it’s good bro, l2build!!11!1”
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I’ve played it in havoc 40 numerous tomes but sure. Buff things so it doesn’t matter.
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ES Marksman Focus Shotgun build is a cetified Havoc 40 classic. Trust me, bro, or skill issue!
