While I agree that the secondary fire mode for the plasma gun is basically useless I feel nerfing the primary fire isn’t the way forward. What the secondary fire needs is to play a different role. So here’s my suggestion, the primary fire is used for taking out specialist and elite targets while the secondary has a AOE horde clearing effect. In essence it would act similarly to a grenade (albeit more powerful but with less AOE). I feel that this would not just make the plasma gun more viable but would also make the secondary attack more interesting to use.
My idea was that they lowered the damage of LMB, and maybe increase a little bit of damage on RMB, but also reduce the cost of RMB. And also, make so you can explode on LMB if going above 100% heat.
I think your idea may be better, but I’m not sure if the lore (THE LORE!!!) will allow for it. In my experience, Warhammer (Games Workshop) games are very careful of such things. But it would give a unique interaction to the gun rather than “fire little, FIRE LITTLE BIGGER!”.
Gamers are very prone to meta gameplay, and one of the firing modes will be objectively better, and therefore used more (or exclusively).
As for the idea, I think their current idea is better with this being the “cleave” one, but a different mark of Plasma could instead be more “aoe”, although there’s the risk of making another rumbler if its too focused on area damage and stagger.
Isn’t it a larger Plasma Gun though? I know Space Marine 1 had a big ol’ Plasma Gun, where you would lob huge balls of plasma that were like artillery. Which is supported by the lore. Not sure if regular Plasma Guns fit that profile, though.
And agreed. Which is why I think balancing and changing things are a tricky matter. You’ll never fully understand the results until the players gets their hands on it.
Yeah in 2 Im referring the Plasma Cannon which is a heavy weapon, I don’t remember if the regular Plasma does that or not.
I know that the model in game for an alternate Plasma Gun mark is a heavier type, so it could fit imo in that regard, and you could always say its a unique mark from a specific Forge World that functions slightly differently.
As you mentioned though, it would be up to GW whether they accepted that or not.
its a good way of thinking,after all,you can’t just cut off your left leg just because your right leg isn’t strong enough isnt it？Its a very simple truth,but many people in this forum don’t understand that.
The Chinese gamers are very particular. If you think general Darktide playerbase is chasing meta, you’d be horrified if you ever looked at China (this obviously applies to other games as well). Suffice to say that P2W is considered not just normal, but only natural in China.
And with that kind of mindset, the very prospect of having the peak performers toned down feels almost like a personal attack to many of them.
