Ok I have been looking through the list of penances and no matter how hard I try on some of them there is no way to complete them unless I waste my teams time and PUT THEM IN DANGER.
Example The heavyweight penance which recently was increased to charging 6 big boys instead of 4.
DOING THIS puts my team in danger most of the time and or makes it so we have to lure two whole waves of elites 3 and 3 together and fight them. I am max leveled and doing this requires so much communication and a whole team of people who are willing to not kill these elites before I can do an ultimate move. I have heard of this taking HOURS for folks even with a full team of people and since I rarely have enough friends on to even attempt this this feels like its both just DUMB, Dangerous, a waste of my teams time and something that simply shouldn’t be a roadblock.
I have seen other similarly frustrating penances like stay in COHESION with someone the whole fight as a OGRYN and I did this twice and recorded it and even sent in the video evidence that I did but because it was buggy it took me doing this 6 times before it finally registered after doing this I wanted to not play your game for a day or two because I was so mad at it. I am not trying to berate you but please make penances something that can be achieved much like the contracts so that its not doing something ridiculous that really doesn’t make sense and just makes people mad. ALSO since I have run into these roadblocks I simply am not progressing any further even though im a maxed out character on penances because it requires WAY TO MUCH effort on behalf of my team I DONT want to hear my team saying " dude this is DUMB why are we doing this" or " nah man screw that i’m killing those things" or my favorite " did you get it this is the 5th try can we please finish this mission and not do this"
Long story short your penances are not fun and are simply CHORES no one likes CHORES.
Yes. They should be redesigned to be cumulative for example:
Beat a Malice mission with every type of weapon.
This means you can actively work towards it, instead of sweating like a pig trying to do impossible tasks that rely on RNG like tackle 6 Ogryns in one missions all together, or cheesing them.
But something tells me it was designed to be horrible on purpose so you actually buy cosmetics instead of going through the frustration.
Nah, just add more penances with more unlockable cosmetics. I’m completely fine with there being some difficult penances that actually require you to make an effort or communicate with your team to achieve it.
Not everything should just be unlocked by playing long enough and often enough.
But they´re not difficulty, they´re behind lucky spawns and a team that wants to deal with them… or better said “wants to deal with you”. The Ogryn one is the perfect example and there are others like the 5 Brainbursts on Psyker, where you need gunners in the best case.
I agree not everything should be given out by just afking and timesinking into the game. But those penances are nothing but “egoistic” and a time-waste. The most players cheesed a lot of them because of it.
And for example… if the communication is like “I´ll jump into death, please rezz me right in front of the extraction, so i don´t get any melee-damage.”, then you know what´s going wrong.
We need team- and map-based penances. Instead of e.g. the Zealot one with the 20 minutes run, why not being like “Beat a mission without modifiers on heresy in under 20 minutes.”???
Or stuff like:
“Beat every map while all players playing the same class.”,
“Find all pests or whatever within 3 seconds in a scanner mission on malice+.”,
“Don´t let endbosses go into melee mode on malice+”,
“Don´t let the hacking fail for more than 20s on heresy+”,
etc…
Such penances would indeed need some sort of teamplay / communication and everyone would achieve them.
That´s nonsense. There´ve been hard or grindy penances in V2 aswell and they offered nothing but a useless chest or a frame. But of course they´ve been either more team/map relevant or “no-brainer” while sinking 1000 hours into it.
In truth with all the sh*t thrown at fatshark for Darktide the one for the penances it’s exaggerated for me. They are the equivalent of okri’s challenges in VT2 and they were always disruptive from normal gameplay, the difference is that in VT2 people first gatered to the lobby and discussed with other teammates if they where fine with it. Also a lot of them were more fun and less RNG based like compleate a task in tot time and all the team benefit from it. It’s not my intention to completely white knight them, when the penance involves 99% luck and rest is skill i agree, utter garbage. But expecting to get all the cosmetics of the penances in a few hours of gameplay it’s also asking too much.
Thats the point you’re missing. In Darktide if you dont pay hot do$h for skins your only other options are
a) Ridiculous penances
b) lazy recolours of said penance skins (and not even the whole gamut mind you, i have all the penance skins on my zealot and vet and yet the recolour store only offers basic/tier 2 versions of said skins)
It´s not different in V2, that´s the point you´re missing… the most skins came with DLC´s and you still have to make penances to unlock them via extra chests. And then your sword does nothing but have a violet lightning or something.
The shop came way later and even if you´re able to get the shops currency through dailies / weeklies, the most stuff are just normal recolored skins, while the good stuff cost bucks.
Not everyone likes the penances skins aswell, meanwhile i like the blue recolor for normal coins.
You search for a purpose yeah. Of course they want to make some money, but it has nothing to do with some cosmetics you get via penances. The most penances are actually no-brainer, it´s just 1-2 for the head or so on each class, which clearly suck.
bro you are missing the point THEY ARE HARD and its LUCK BASSED you have to have 3 elites then three elites spawn all of which are big unless your team can coral these guys for hours on end trying to line em up its a pain