Ogryn has weak melee

When playing as veteran, for example, I can kill an enemy with 2 punches.

But with ogryn I need 4-6 punches.

Feels really bad.

Which melee?

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Most things die in one hit to my Ogryns Pickaxe.

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I can kill a scab rager with 2 light attacks from my bull butcher, I don’t know what op is doing but it’s wrong.

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tried the “over-cleave” build i had in mind with my karsolas and once the stacks are up i swing through a group of scab ragers/maulers like a lawnmower on meth.

definately a case of user-error here :smile:

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Me with my Ogy mowing heretical grass:
GayLandscaper

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well, given my recent mortis attempt, literally that :smile:

its “relaxing” in a way but leaves room for improvement.

another sleeper-combo:

krourk IV heavy/special/light

opens up and almost kills crushers/bulwarks in one go and can be chained into a nice flow.
slaughtere/thrust flak maniac while grenade gauntlet with unyielding/carapace softens them before melee range.

good synergy and swap speed aint bad even without the perk :+1:

edit:
as brian confirmed, i tested several matches with krourk slaughterer confident strike and felt “dirty” :smile:

surely its the survivability one would build upon entering >30 havoc.

auric maelstrom its a bit “unecessary” unless you carry 3 noobs around :squinting_face_with_tongue:

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I use only mace and mace+shield.

And it needs some hits to kill targets.

I still think is weak.

But thanks for all opinions.

uses the most defensive weapons in game

complains they are relatively weak in offense

what? xD

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Its a different experience but not a worse one. I’d try to run skullcrusher in one of those blessing slots, since they are not the most outstanding weapons for damage. The pickaxes and shovels generally beat the clubs in terms of limiting hits to kill enemies. The clubs have an advantage in stagger and attack speed. They basically always disrupt non boss entities and can engage most elites from a farther distance than they can hit back. It is maximum safe.

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if by mace you mean bully club and not “paul” i advice for bully 1 with skullcrusher/haymaker flak/maniac and defence ass dump stat.

shield should go with brutal momentum(lower left cleave node peferably)

of course your build needs to synergize with the clubs abilities compared to say pickaxe or knife

besides that, there’s little to add, if you want i got almost 1000 videos ogryn gameplay on my channel showing all sorts of ranged/melee combos.

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Ahhh ok.

I just used what I liked… I guess it is the defensive weapons then.

Ok. Thanks.

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How’s Shield a defensive weapon? It’s cleave was and is pretty high.
It stacks bleed to nearly every heretic living on the planet.
It staggers everything non-boss.
And since the last patch even the light attacks kill pretty good.
(Blessings I use are Skull Crusher and Brutal Momentum - the no-brainer combo)

And with attention seeker you also get the bonus of letting them come to you … walking to the enemy is for the lil 'uns :smiley:

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Trolling with stupidity

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to be fair it literally being a shield, i cant blame beginners getting caught in the whole plonk-turtle stationary trap it very well allows for.

by true lvl 100 i expect everyone though to see past the “malice” behavior and slowly get to the heavy cancel combo, actually killing stuff in auric maelstrom and above

then again “i’ve seen things” :scream:

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I still see Ogryn’s that stand around with a shield, (not taunting). That feels really bad to see, because I know the Ogryn player thinks they are helping.

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No.

Thanks for your useless comment.

I always think I am useful with my shield, distracting enemies.

And trying to be a living shield.

:smiling_face_with_tear:

not my best shield performance, a bit rusty after 3 months karsolas rush :flexed_biceps:t2::laughing:
then again, even if the video doesnt show, most of the heavy1 repeats werent block cancels at all.
somewhere in this pattern is a default pace to repeat h1.
just havent found the sweet spot yet :man_shrugging:

anyway, take a glimpse and maybe see some more aggressive way to play shield.

grenade gauntlet is in a good spot right now, good debuffer for bulwarks/crushers

Even with those weapons, with proper building, you can reach a lot of 1/2 shots breakpoints, are you using the heavy attacks or just light spam?