technically don’t transonic blades come in all shapes and forms? i remember reading references about halberds and axes being made with this technology
i feel like we could’ve done better than just another collection of swords and a shock maul tbh. taser goad was described on, then removed from the steam store page, that alone would’ve been a far more unique melee weapon
The main ones are Sword, Razor (Dagger), and Chord Claw.
the Mechanicum novel mention a Transonic Glaive but never mentioned in 40k, and never seen or used elsewhere.
In theory the other types of Transonic weapon do probably exist, but I would guess that GW would prioritize weapons that are seen in codex and stuff
We don’t even have an actual complete and respectable Darktide 1.
Do we really want Darktide 2?
Not in the way that VT2 was needed, VT(1) was not made with an update cycle and dlc in mind, while both VT2 and DT(1) were.
Never said V1 and V2 was. I was talking about making a Sequel!
DLC was no expectation? Sure…
That is not entirely Correct M8. You refer to the Picture. Sources are there at least on of the Sites.
We talk about Enemy Faction and not Allied one. if you want Beastmen Class, no need for a fleshed out Allied Faction on that regard. could be a “Contigency Group of Beastmen” Grendel saved up, easy
Never said it was worked on. I say we need it!
That is a fair Point, didnt think about Hadron!
However Hadron is written very openly to a degree which could give some Loopholes. We will see with SKitarii how open she actually is. I say know we wont hear anything specific about her tendencies to either Purist or Heretek. Skitarii Primus Rules were bend for this Game to release them also. Skitarii Primus were a thing, they kinda Vanished since they had a SKitarii Marhsall and know they came back as a “Specialist or Special Forces Character”.
Lots of Grey Area or clean Slate
Hadrons very strict, albeit she bends the Rules as of Grendels Words aswell. Even Heretek follow the Rules of the Omnissiah to a degree still. Not all Heretek perform openly as you know. She could be Heretek we dont know (yet)
Not all Xenos have hyper Advanced Weapons as the Eldar do. In Dark Heresy it also doesnt seem to be a problem with Logistics when it comes to Ammo. A Shuriken Pistols has technically a MASSIVE Amount of Ammo in the thousands in one Magazin, if you know how to use it. Depicted on Horus Heresy Book with “Damon Prytanis” iiRC. He was a Human Perpetual Assassin for the Cabal. He was gifted this Pistols i think by Gau Dah. He even showed him how to use them, there is a techniqu to it so you wont spend the whole mag in seconds. If you are in a Warband you come prepared, why else would they recruit you if you cant think ahead that much?!
Kroot use Ballistic based Weaponry no? Some Energy based and i dont mean Tau Weaponry, but specific Kroot Weapons. Some made Hybrid with Tau Techonology, thats fair. Still not a hinderance
Kroot/ Tau Technology is neither ahead of Imperials, neither is a problem for AdMech to understand. No Issues there.
That is just flapping for a Counterargument when there is none. I was very specific with which Xenos i meant to be added to the Game (Heresy Rules applied). Getting Resources for your Warband in form of Ammo is a no Brainer if you recruit that kinda Power. You want them to use with what they are comfortable. Inquisitors reach is long if not infinte. As i said already and you left it out. Grendel is definetly not a Monodominant. Half his most trusted Waband Officers are Heretic or Borderline Heretic from teh View of the Imperium itself!
Sure indulge me, im wondering!
If you need to force a Sister of Battle into a Game which you funnily dont think they are too OP, but Assassinorum or Techpriest are (which are also in Dark Heresy as a playable Character) are in your Opinion which makes absolutely no sense comparatively then do it.
What about the Cleric/ Adept/ Scholar/ Confessor/ Missionary?? No word about that?? hmm interesting.
Sister being a 2nd Psyker, comes down to Faith, i get it. Still too OP!
Also ur FULL STATEMENT about Power Creep
if we dont get the 4 Major Assassinorum Classes. Then there should be no Sister either iMO. Thats only fair. If you wanna bend the rules, then do it for all of them, as FS already does with the newest addition of Skitarii.
Powerlevel wise they are on the same playte to an extent depending on the Temples. Obvioulsy i talk about Callidus, Eversor and Culexus. Vindicare not so much since they use Infiltration and Sniper Rifles
So i checked: Ordo Sicarius is what you referring, to. AS WOULD BE Death Cult Assassins. Carrer Path for Dark Heresy both.
IMHO just give the Vindicare Sniper Rifles out and leave it be. We have Guardsmen Skilltree already. No need for a Assassin Class separetly. It would be a very boring choice indeed and something w already have, again. Skins you can do Premium.
If you argue like that, we could have gone with Hive Enforcer as a playbale Class regardeless of if they are in DH or not…
What really would be Intersting as i Posted once and we dont even need care about bending Rules (since iiRC not exclusive to Necromunda, but was made most famous):
Spyrers Armor in all the most famous Compositions. I couldt find my Post.
You have Ranged and Melee options. Its never done before and would make sense in Lore Terms. Hive Nobles fighting the Fight to restore their Home. From time to time even they have reasonable People or they get something out of it! (Inquisitor Ascension Comic, very cool read)
*Orrus
*Jakara
*Patriarch/ Matriarch (depending on Skills chosen in the same Section)
would be my choice
Thats would be a extremely nice addition and Logical thing to do.
They dont need to be shared. makes you actually wanna play the Class and use teh spent Money.
There is plenty missing for all or most classes to be used that some were even Datamined when the Game came out. Melta Rifle/ Melta Pistol, Plasma Pistol, Powerfist, Powerclaw, Autocannon for Ogryn, Heavy stubber for Guardsmen (As is used by Dreg Gunner and used by Dark Heresy Catachan Character) etc etc
Plenty of Room left…
Yeah well kinda right. Depends on how limited FS is in terms of Contract and License. Dark Heresy has “Addons”. Some i mentioned are Addons to the Base Dark Heresy Game.
How is a Beastmen eaier to explain than a Xenos. You need a bit of Lore regardeless 
“Kroot are Tribalistic Xenos that live on their Homeworld called “Pech”. A Tribe of Kroot is called Kindred. They are led by Shaman like Leaders callled a Kroot Shaper. They tend to absorb Genes by eating their Foes, picked out by Shaman like Seer called a Kroot Shaper that picks out the most valued Enemies Prices for his Kindred to absorb. Its their Culture to Preserve the most valued Enemies Power out of Respect and getting Stronger. This can go from simple Claws to Wings grwoing out of their Back. They are a Warlike Hunter Gatherer Culture, allied with the Taum Imperium due to them saving their Planet, Species from getting annihilated by the Orks”
There you go, whole Lorebit written in 20 seconds. Maybe not 100% when it came to postion of Shapers. Its not even important since we see the Lorebit once in Announcements and thats it. We dont have a Index/ Bestiary as we didnt have one in Vermintide without Mods. Its not even a second thought, but would be a amazing feature for New Players to Warhammer. and old Fans alike, as others and i posted many times over
As you can remember they removed the cool Lorebits from Weapon description we had in the beginning when Inspecting Weapons aswell.
“Beastmen are Genemanipulated Humans that come in many Forms. Most notably are the Felinids, Humans that made themselves have Catlike Features though Genescience, adapting to Survive against Predators and their Homeworld being in a near Constant Cylce of deprived Light. The Catlike Features help them fend off against Predators either defensively by Sneaking near unheard or in Ambush Tactics with their Super Human Hearing, noticing Enemies from afar hiding in Trees, ready to Pounce them. Their most notable Weapons are retractable super elongated Claws they can retract at a wish of tehir thought”
Took me now 1 1/2 minutes… Dude common…
Anoterh cool Addition, and im pretty damn sure Players would love to see it in that Comipilation
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Epione_Spes
Medicae with Claws and all
As already mentioned, Sisters are not?! Even more Powerful in Lore
Why should a Blank be more problematic than having a Warrior Nun ascending to near Godhood?! 
Bro…
Even if you had to do 3 or 4 separate Classes
, why not? What makes you think they wont sell? Again, super nice addition, could be justified by Lore and would sell crazy. Not done in any Game Horde Game like Vermintide or Dt ro any 1st/ 3rd Person. Chaos Gate has them as Playables. Who else? None did if im right
Still waiting for a Titan Knights Horde Shooter 
Dont know what you mean by that
Also you forgot to Quote me in the same part about having these Characters not only in Owlcat Game “Dark Heresy” but in "Dark Heresy Pen & Paer& DH Darktide etc aswell. nah nah
If you Quote me then show all of it, not only what serves your argument right or wrong!
For VT1, there were 2 type of Dlc content:
But VT2 was able to do much more, with alongside maps (which later became free content only), modes (Though one released as free after the less than illustrious reception of the preceding), weapons (instead of 1 or 2 a pack, 5 weapons, one per character), and most importantly, the Dlc Careers.
And for Darktide, while they angled toward the paid cosmetics in a 1st option, they did plan to sell subclasses and do sell classes.
In Tech Adept:
I mentioned the Beastmen toward post launch enemy faction, not in the sense of adding Beastmen as playable class. Which served to highlight the difference between those and the GSC (ie: Beastmen were “easy” to explain working alongside the Skaven or Norscan >< GSC can’t really work alongside the Dreg/Scab)
That still leave the issues of Shared weapons, which yes a Xenos class could be made that is not using any shared weapon, but seeing the set scope of the previous classes (Arb: 4; Scum: 6; Skit 6?), I wouldn’t expect any class that can’t be able to use weapons that are already there.
I would accept the caveat that they could plan a couple of classes (Eg: Warlock + Harlequin + Ranger) where they have access to a shared pool, which would expand the dlc scope that we see.
1st, could you point where I have said that Tech Priest should not be a class in Darktide ? Cause I don’t remember having said that, I have previously said that Tech Adept would be more work-able due to the narrative employment of the player character compared to Tech Priests, but I did not say that Tech Priest as a whole are forcibly stronger than what we get.
As for Assassinorum, if we are looking at the same thing that is the Officio.
So yes, I would say that Officio Assassinorum are at base much stronger than what we see here.
No I would not say that the lower strata of Tech Priest are too strong, nor would I say that the lower strata of Sister would be.
I’m not suggesting to add a Tech Priest Dominus nor a Canoness.
That’s the base of Zealot
Have said before in other threads that they could do something about the Adept, but that they would have to lean on some of its various advances to really find bases for gameplay (Reliquary; Deamonine Seeker; Loremaster…).
Which is from where ? I would assume it is a sub type of Adept.
2 advances that are given to the Cleric through Blood of Martyr.
That would depend entirely on how they balance it.
That is called thinking ahead. I’ve seen quite a few people mentioning Power Creep as a be all and end all.
Certainly we can see that Sister can be way to over powered, but the Dark Heresy games did consider them to be able to be balanced alongside the normal classes. So that mean that GW did accept them as possibly be such.
1 not about being fair.
2 very much not the same level of power.
Ordo Sicarius aren’t Death Cults. They’re Assassins that were created by, for, and from the Inquisition. From Dark Heresy, while they’re accessible to most classes (Except maybe Psyker ? forgot), their outlook and lore does not make them into a Death cult, if anything, it’s a fake Officio Assassin.
Honestly I was expecting them to do Enforcers either as a branch for certain classes (Zealot and Psykers), but then they sold them as cosmetics…
I would be quite interested in seeing a source for non-Necromundan Spyrer, cause while it is correct that the armour aren’t made by the Necromundan people (Constructed off-world) it has never been linked to something specific nor to something that is mentioned anywhere else (iirc, there was some implied nods toward the Spyrer tech being the base of the tech that the gangs uses, Goliath; Esher; Delague and Van Saar, but that’s not been in quite a long time).
So you’re suggesting to have classes that have a total of 6 weapons 
That does not matter…
Owl Cat’s game expand to what the base Rpg games uses, but it is also much easier there to add weapons that are specific for select character than here (Fps vs TBS)
By the Beastmen being commonly used by the Imperium both in past and current lore ? And being made to use Imperial weapons…
so I suppose it’s “Tau and Imperium” ? Do you know the Imperium ? Do they often save Xenos ?
Basically:
Rogue Trader & Dark Heresy → Play as a Rogue Trader or Inquisitor and their close retinue
Darktide → Play as the nameless mooks that are thrown as the 1st line against the cult
…
Then find a source.
Rogue Trader does allow the ability to play certain Xenos iirc, but Dark Heresy TT did not have rules for playable Xenos at all (there were some Xenos weapons though.
Am I meant to disagree or have an opinion on all the things you write ?
