New trend with the release of the DLC classes

So what exactly in my post did I describe that was inaccurate?

If you go into the talents of the new classes vs the old classes, you are going to tell me with a straight face that the old classes aren’t any weaker? Honestly?

Flame staff has been an issue for GOD knows how long. Chorus was completely unnecessary and only there because they also released SHOUT which are both MASSIVE crutches. I started out as a vet and put 200 hours into him before switching to zealot. Veterans would go down just as much as Psykers before the release of Shout - after? You very rarely see Vet’s going down and it’s because every one of them and their mom is running the same shout build. Smite is one of the most broken moves out of ANY horde shooter on the market right now and shouldn’t exist.

I really think Chorus/Shout/Smite provide way too big of a crutch in comparison to any other skills in the game. The funny part all three of these completely broken and unnecessary skills were released at the same time and have remained completely broken since!

Instead of addressing any of this it’s just been a constant fluctuation of releasing broken talents/classes. Which wouldn’t be an issue if we could also get enemy balance in line lol

in this here scenario because neither do they have a “drivers license” aka understanding precious little how to utilize what they just copied,
nor do they belong in “traffic” without understanding what makes the wheels turn.

perfect world would have them do certain tasks that would hammer in how x/y/z work.

“way back when” we did with try and error through hundreds of matches and only left malice when we werent a weight on the shoulders of others but could hold our own and our head high :man_shrugging:

this seems to much to ask though from casuals that drop a game as often as one changes underwear, for one “has to platinum” and head for the next field to go locust-ham.

counter checking a build is a-ok IF one saw the performer live in action and compared his output to the other guy.

that comparison makes understanding why the other build killed more/faster even possible instead of chucking down an expensive wine and pretend :“oh yeah that is “tasty””

By that logic so many things don’t fit. Psyker brain burst shouldn’t be affected by the armor something is wearing. Neither should psychic fire. Ammo boxes shouldn’t contain ammo for every gun in the game. Scum shouldn’t be able to pick pocket ammo for guns that the heretics aren’t using. If you think a dog exploding stumbling a plague ogryn is ridiculous how about a veteran yelling at it? The worst of the worst is probably the conceptual idea that taking a stim will allow your guns to hit harder. What about a zealot generating knives from thin air or a arbites/veteran manifesting grenades over time? It’s a silly rabbit hole to go down o_o

I think everyone is in complete agreement with this. This conversation wouldn’t be happening if Fatshark ignored the HD2 community of “Never Nerf”. But yeah, I agree.

I remember good ole pre-patch 13 days, and when pre-patch 13 released, I love theory crafting and moving around nodes that worked and didn’t. I remember being new and folding on Damnation till I understood what worked and what didn’t. You’re right about the current hyper-competitive, instant gratification climate where people just want to do things NOW, instead of enjoying the game and growing, they just go to GameLatern to lookup a build and fall for a noob trap, then eventually get frustrated when they’re not climbing.

reminds me of the 18 year old at the gym on gear but looking like “leek” as markus rühl would put it.

for he reads up the schedule of a pro athlete, gets 2 or even 3 legit components but is totally oblivious about a proper training regimen that requires serious dedication, proper nutrition, equal sleep and hitting the right exercises to continously grow.

but “he’s on tren baby, like the big dudes” :laughing:

thats equally a “today-problem”, kids not getting taught a tolerance towards frustration and the acceptance of failure as a guidance to growth.
everyone’s a winner, no one loses, god beware someone “feels” inadequate.

the result spills over into pass-time activities cause if he comes from work he’s entitled to unwind in the “just-a” game.

that said game is build around 3 others who put in more thought, energy and possess a higher skill/understanding is not allowed to be since he “hit play” and has to perform the same at least, otherwise “they” lied to him in being special :man_shrugging:

theres a pretty decent documentary from early 2000s that describes the “instant gratification” disorder based on male shape in media and toys, showing a star wars luke skywalker from the 80s from kenner and a 00s that looked like he injected the whole gym :laughing:

had some interesting psychiatrists and even bodybuilding athletes/later trainers like steve michalik that compare how steroids do work when used “properly” and why the majority still looks like :poop: even when on much higher doses as the pro on stage.

that however is an unpleasant truth to the spoiled masses that are brought up with “you can be everything you want” since their parents left out the small print “but you have to work your ass off for it”

I understand what you’re saying, and yes by certain logic then other things wouldn’t fit. I was more saying with how powerful Arbites already is just with their talents/weapons - adding a dog into the mix that can actively stun bosses is a little much. I have posted about 20 different times how a Veteran using their VOICE to stagger enemies is unbelievably dumb, but here we are and it seems like it’s not going to change.

Quick dopamine gain from video games, alcohol, smoking. In excess can inhibit productive goals that require more extended duration to achieve.

i.e. Physical exercise, studying for academic or career qualification. More time commitment, no quick easy gain. But great reward.

You see in the news a lot about graduates applying for 200-300 job postings or unable to get mortgage for first property.

For sure it’s more difficult now than before. It is definitely more challenging for young people than compared to our generation or our parents generation.