I’m only saying that the argument of “it won’t matter if I do the right thing if everyone else is doing the wrong thing” is not a good one. It’s an easy out that is used to justify complacency with regard to unjust systems all across humankind. Though we are all fallible, myself included, we should always try and do what we know is right, regardless of the actions or opinions of others. In this case, that’d be not enabling this corporations predatory behavior by giving them your, presumably, hard earned money for half-assed and uninspired virtual cosmetics whose inclusion into the game is 95% based on vacuuming up consumer cash rather than enhancing their product in any meaningful way.
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I think your wallet speaks far more clearly than your words ever could in terms of feedback.
Well, thanks for funding the content for me.
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…and 5% based on funding 2 years, and counting, of content development for other players to enjoy without them having to spend a dime beyond the initial purchase.
Which reminds me, Darktide is in this month’s Humble Choice! Anyone who wants a free ride off of OP’s back, get on in here for cheap!
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With most of that time being spent finishing systems and mechanics that were meant to be in the game upon release. You’re not really selling this as being a good thing. I understand that maintaining service for the game costs money, but that does not justify them selling what often essentially amounts to a new texture every 2 weeks at grossly inflated prices. If they want people to buy cosmetics to fund further development, I understand and support that decision, but they still have to earn the money by producing finished, polished and worthwhile products.
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They’ve earned other people’s money. They could earn more of mine with cheaper prices (helllo discounts?!), a shop where everything is always available, and some cooler fits.
But the market sets the prices…and you can’t change the market by guilting some random consumer (or even 100 of them) into changing their standards (for what looks cool or is worth a few bucks or should be rewarded) to match your own.
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I’d agree with you if we were talking purely of varying tastes in style, but that is not the crux of this issue really. The problem is the constant issues with their stuff, be it clipping, gaping holes in the mesh, missing voice filters, or whatever else on top of their over reliance on retexturing and reselling old stuff. There’s a limit to how much we can stretch the “subjective taste” argument. People can come on here and say they’d like to dress like Mr Hankey the Christmas Poo. That would also be a subjective opinion, but it’s not one whose validity I would accept.
There will always be things people like that I dislike. I’m not a child, I understand this. But when people fork out more than third or second worlder make in a week on a broken retexture of a free cosmetic, it becomes just dystopian enough that I will voice my dislike.
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Voice away. But some people aren’t bothered by weird clipping. I have a personal threshold for it, and I’ve not purchased cosmetics I otherwise liked because of it.
I guess my point is more that you could state your standards and opinions without telling someone they need to…
…lol
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You are basically an English soldier invading the peaceful farmers of Scotland, and only by repeatedly watching Braveheart can you be redeemed.
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I thought it obvious enough that that was a joke more than a serious statement.
Correct. Once a day as per my prescription.
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Hey I don’t take it personally and I’ve been sitting here laughing at a few messages, I enjoy Darktide even with its flaws and all, it may seem strange to some that I can say I spend money on pixels and at the same time I say I wish MTX didn’t exist at all because I dislike it. It is what it is.
This post was more about what we could do to make it better for everyone enjoying Darktide, but it derailed from the start.
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hah it was the funniest part, but c’mon it was also of a piece with the rest of your comment:
Anyway, to get back on OP’s actual topic: the biggest issue for me with cosmetics overall (not just paid) is the real deficit of weapon skins. It’s really perplexing!
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I agree, seeing how some mods can “easily” change the texture/color of cosmetics I don’t understand how we have so few free weapon skins at the commissary, just adding a green and yellow skin would go a long way, the more the better of course.
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I really thought that they were waiting on the itemization update to drop a whole bunch of weapon skins into the commissary. But now that that’s passed, I think your Melk idea is pretty great. I like the weekly goals, but they’re meaning less and less more me the more Melk bucks I collect.
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I’m pretty sure I saw a cosmetic in the melk shop from some youtuber that had access to closed testing before the game was released, I don’t know the name of it, but you know the zealot cosmetic chest piece you unlock from penances, the red one that have candles on the shoulder, it was in the store, but in blue. I’ll have to see if I can find the video and post a screenshot of it.
Anyway that’s where the idea come from.
Edit. A quick google searched took me back to an old post here about it.
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Interesting! I don’t remember the screenshot or any hints that there was more to Melk than we’ve seen. He’s only gotten a light (but important) touch with some of the contract changes, but I expect a rework coming at some point. And cosmetics could fit in great.
I wonder if he had body cosmetics that got moved over to the Commissary. IIRC, the Commissary didn’t originally have anything but weapon skins. Melk having the operative cosmetics could have maybe made sense. Or it could just be another weird loose end like the “Inbox” view/feature that’s been tucked away and forgotten.
But at this point, Melk needs some kind of rework. Fingers crossed for more ways to earn some new skins. It really is shocking how few there are in game, paid or not. It’s not too too far off of what VT2 has accumulated (although they’re all earnable there)…but then VT2’s cosmetic releases are stagnant as hell.
There were some discounts in the first weeks. Which were all on items which were never offered without a discount before, and were not offered without a discount after, either, ever again.
Which is also illegal in the EU at the very least but really: If the consumer doesn’t notice the illegal fake discounts then were they really illegal? The consumer doesn’t notice so he should just be happy that he gets a discount
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I don’t remember this! Like you mean there were discounts outside of the discounts you get via a bundle?
Truly the most important question is how tf do you choose what to wear
They were bundles, but there was no seperate purchases. You had to buy the bundle, and the bundle was discounted. The undiscounted price was not an actual real price that could be paid anywhere, making the discount a fake discount. They patched it later so you could buy the items seperately, relatively quickly, probably to follow laws here.
But again, if the consumer doesn’t notice he’s being offered a fake discount it doesn’t really matter. He should just be happy that he’s getting a perceived discount, everyone is happy
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You could buy them seperately on launch too, you just needed to go into a seperate screen. It was a little obtuse and they changed that. But discounts were never a thing, they do the bundle thing to force the idea of a deal and discourage picking because that would mean spending less.