Lucius Mk III Helbore Description, Reload Speed and Damage Inconsistency

Warhammer 40,000: Darktide Bugs
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Issue Description:
Rate of Fire not accurate. Combining Reload Speed from Feats and Perk don’t stack properly. Damage inconsistency.

Steps to Reproduce:

Rate of Fire

  1. Select a Veteran Sharpshooter;
  2. Go to Meat Grinder;
  3. Choose Lucius Mk III Helbore and do 5 fast shots;
  4. Choose Lucius Mk II Helbore and do 5 fast shots;
  5. Compare.

Clearly the rate of fire from both are not the same, despite the description saying the opposite.

Reload Speed

  1. Select a Veteran Sharpshooter;
  2. Go to Meat Grinder;
  3. Choose “Tactical Reload” and “One after Another” Feats;
  4. Choose Lucius Mk III Helbore;
  5. Kill one Specialist like a Sniper;
  6. Use a stopwatch and time the reload;
  7. Observe if the time is half of the reload speed of the weapon.

Reload Speed = 3,33 seconds; Target Reload Speed = 1,67 seconds; Timed Reload Speed = 2,24 seconds;

So the reload speed doesn’t match the target.

Damage

  1. Select a Veteran Sharpshooter;
  2. Go to Meat Grinder;
  3. Choose Lucius Mk III Helbore;
  4. Do several shots in the Crusher and Mutant’s body;
  5. Observe.

You will notice inconsistency of the damage that is not always the same for body damage.

Platform:
[Steam]

Player ID:
(Steam Community :: Agnon)]

Reproduction Rate:
Constant (100%)

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You misunderstand what Reload Speed is. It’s not just lopping off a percent like Reload Time. Speed indicates diminishing returns, while Time has a hard cap of 100%. In the case of speed, it’s the default reload divided by the sum of the speed bonuses in decimal form, plus 1.

Tactical Reload provides 20%, One after another provides 30%, for a total of +50% Reload Speed. 3.33s / (1 + 0.2 + 0.3) = 2.22s, or pretty much exactly what you recorded to two hundredths of a second.

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Thank you for your reply.

About the subject “Reload”… I appreciate for sharing that knowledge.

It would be nice if some dev confirm that information :slight_smile:

I did more tests with different weapons and similar Reload like the Columnus Mk V Infantry (Reload = 3.30s) using the same Feats and it doesn’t feel the same like Lucius Mk III Helbore.

I need to figure out a way to measure this more precisely…

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I queried this with our Gameplay Designers, and was told the following -

Reload Speed, you’re gaining +50% buff to reload speed from the feats. Not setting it to 50% of the original reload time. To reload in half the time, you’d need to reload twice as fast - but the current feats only get you halfway there.

Rate of Fire, this is possibly a bug. The calculations on the stat screen may be off, so we’re going to look into it.

Thanks!

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