i want all weapons to be brought up to useful. not homogenized but have their uses. same with skills but seems people just want to bring things down so i have to fight the enemies of the emperor with a spoon and a tee ball on a string. is everyone finding this game so easy that one arm behind your back is meta?
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I don’t think there’s really much that needs nerfing. I think most stuff that people see as balance issues are people playing the top end ridiculously difficult modes where, due to the way the game chooses to increase difficulty by throwing huge numbers of tightly packed enemies at players, a handful of weapons and talents scale in power in ways that just don’t exist for the games 95% of the playerbase are running.
The only weapon I think really needs a nerf is the Dueling Sword, and that’s because anti-armor utility isn’t something that should be in its wheelhouse to begin with, it’s just not appropriate for the lore or purpose of that weapon, and being essentially the best such weapon is particularly ridiculous. It also doesn’t matter what difficulty you’re playing, the issue affects all players, and it just makes actual dedicated heavy melee weapons redundant.
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A lot of things need to be nerfed. A lot of things need to be buffed. These two opinions aren’t mutually exclusive.
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when i started playing bosses were a thing now half the time they dont last 10 seconds
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If the Dueling Sword loses all or most of its anti-armor capability, it’ll go from S to D tier. It needs toning down, but if it all of a sudden becomes completely useless in an area it currently excels at, it will become totally unused like a solid half of the weapons in Darktide.
Fatshark is not a developer that has a good track record when it comes to nerfing things. If they’re going to nerf DS, it needs to be a light touch.
Also, prioritizing the Dueling Sword when Nugryn is a thing and Psyker cheese has existed for years would be an interesting move to say the least.
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veteran for example just needs an overhaul cause 90% of the weapons are just really bad at higher diffs and on lower ones it really doesnt matter since everything dies from getting hit by a rusty spoon anyway or just gets deleted by ridiculous ogryn / psyker stuff
i dont know what it is with this fetish for nerfing everything about vet first and foremost before the actual problematic things in the game
fatsharks problem is that everything is designed around being able to deal with carapace ogryns if you cant deal with armor clown cars/ cant contribute to them you are by design a burden on the team if you dont massively over compensate in some other regard
even maulers arent that much of an issue when you think about it
the class is just terrible in comparison to the other 3 and the only thing it really got going for itself in havocs are ranged control and shout + survivalist take shout and survivalist and noone will bring vet anymore to pubs just take another ogryn or zealot instead and have (somewhat) more issues with gunners
and on lower diffs its an absolute joke anyway when you compare them flame staff psyker being able to roast the entire map with vent shriek ( since you dont need bubble there at all ) or ogryn playing afk leftclick simulator / spamming overtuned gunlugger rumbler while not even being close to having any issues with ammo since ammo scarcity is not a thing below high havocs
the devs gotta make a decision in which direction they want to take their game further lean into the arcade shooter thing or go back to the more survivalist (hehe) days of old
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This is pretty much true. There are a few weapons leagues better than the rest of them, but most are serviceable and useable. I think the problem weapons should be nerfed while the others remain untouched - and the more useless ones buffed.
There are also some interesting cases where weapons are just straight up superior to others - a big example to me is the Relic Blade vs. the Eviscerator. While I think the mk2 eviscerator has the best moveset, the Relic Blade is just better at everything.
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its mostly salty people that dont get accepted into havocs cause not everyone wants to drag their deadweight through the game with their meme build if you can at least pull your own weight nobody minds but most of the times they dont even do that
thats cause chain weapons absolutely suck ass vs more than 1 armor and the special is often pretty much useless while animation locking you
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Even this comparison is closer than you think.
The newer MK XV Eviscerator has slightly less horde killing than relic but good middle ground and stagger not relying on power element and 1 shot-ability of Crushers with Rev overhead. Still wish the MK III Eviscerator to get some umph and return to the glory of zealot leveling with awesome swing pattern.. and it does have a unique Rev heavy cleave on hordes
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I like my elegant weapon from a more civilized age. It surprises me when people act as if slight adjustments over a wide range of weapons are something unheard of.
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Even still, I find the strikedown L1 of the mk2 really useful in a lot of scenarios, so it’s a bummer than none of the other weapons have something that fast.
