Lore question about being referred to "Reject"

So a lot of marketing and promotion materiel refer to its players and characters as “rejects” despite upon hitting lvl 30, we are brought on board to the Inquisitional Warband by Rannik himself.

So my question is this. Are we still rejects or inquisition acolytes? Is “Reject” to Darktide is what “Summoner” is to League of Legends?

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Morrow is the Prime of the Reject Warband, at lvl 30 we still are under his leadership (and not transferred to the Auric Warband)

So even as acolytes they still refer to us as Reject (offense intended)

Do not forget luddo narrative dissonance

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I guess regardless of our performance, we are ultimately criminals given the opportunity to fight heretics where they don’t want to send more valuable troops. So being referred to as rejects makes sense, even at 30.

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Which has more narrative dissonance because we are also ‘auric operatives’. It’s been a narratively a mess for the last 2 years and I don’t see them fixing it any time soon.

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does it really matter?

i like the overall tone of 40k where no matter what you do as “common” runt, you’re karked.

is it that different from the drafted guardsman getting
•disected by tyranids
•clobbered by orks
•driven mad by tzeentch
•mutilated by some khorne dude
•“pleasured” by slaneesh cultist wlth 200 tentacles?

guess at the moment of his demise his rank in the guards doesnt make the experience any better :smile:

if something’s “unimmersive” its the 1000 clones of our characters, 5 seconds ago face down in guts and nurgle goo poof back on the mourningstar.

reject or not, having a “perma death” char that varies slightly in appearance but keeps equip (brunt salvages it after battle anyways) and talents, would be the logical continuation of the “story”

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It’s possible to be both a reject and an acolyte at the same time. One is the background and the other is a job title.

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You question authority, you question the Emperor. Do your job and purge the heretic, reject.

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I feel a lot of your issues are only issues if you make it one.

This basically. The players are not elite high level operatives, there are no Sororitas or Inquisitorial Stormtroopers at hand. We’re expendable nobodies in the private army of an Inquisitor fighting underhive scum and rebel Guardsmen.

The closest thing to Grendyl’s warband you’ll find in real life was Russia’s Wagner Group. That group had a core of experienced and well equipped vets, and tons of prisoners. The prisoners were used as expendable assets, often just to reveal enemy positions which the professional cadre would then engage. That divide was pretty stark and even trusted former convicts were never treated like the pro cadre was. They also operated much like a typical organized crime group, same way the Warband does, where titles and procedure don’t matter, but rather specific individuals are given authority and their word is law pretty much regardless of their status otherwise. You report to Rannick, Zola, and Morrow, not to the Interrogator, Explicator, or Sergeant Major.

If you view Darktide through that lense, it makes a lot more sense being called “Reject”.

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the PCs are temporary replacements for properly trained inquisitorial troops due to them not being able to source proper replacements during the atoman campaign for…various reasons i’m sure. they are still offically “rejects” assumed to die before the campaign ends and those that survive will be properly assessed for suitable training and recruitment or getting the ol’ commissar correction for poor behavior.

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You do earn new titles as an Inquisitorial Henchman. Mistorum Guardian is one of them, so there is the way you do graduate from Reject to something just a step above it, then eventually can become an Auric Operative

I’m reading the Ciaphas Cain series. At one point he talks about Schola Progenium trained Stormtroopers. He is going to take some into an ‘oh poop’ situation and really doesn’t want to go, but he’s glad they are still over a casualty level where they lose their effectiveness…

That they are so good because they worked together since they were kids but as they take casualties there’s never replacements for that kind of thing… so why do we still even do this at all? Why not some more effective system?

And at this point the inquisitor who has slapped a big inquisitorial seal over his memoirs interjects, as she often does, that it’s because the real reason for those cadets at all is about 5% of them turn out to be inquisition foot soldier material, and the rest, rejects, end up in the Guard… never the wiser about the real point of their training.

there is an a effective system but that doesn’t make it usable all the time. the events of darktide are a very small black ops part of the larger atoman campaign which involves a large ground war out at the lower levels and some level of space conflict which is keeping the imperials form freely moving supplies (and the nobiluty are focusing on making sure they don’t loose theirtrade and stuff over letting grendyl get his crap sent in).

once this is over the inquisitor will likely relocate and get arranging properly trained troops underway but he doesn’t have the ability to pull new forces in any real number right now. it’s possible he’s just hiding his losses to avoid getting the space marines called in and ruining whatever his larger goal here is since space marines aren’t interested in subtlety.

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