Just so tired of back-spawns

The real failure is the failure to notice that this is going on.

Situational awareness is a skill. Failing to notice cheat spawns is a skill issue and that fail is not improved by denying cheatspawns happen in the face of video.

Does a poxer appearing behind you really change the course of the battle? Not really, it’s just annoying as hell and should be fixed, and pretending it doesn’t happen is cope.

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It can happen, but it’s not happening to you every game and it’s not happening to you minutely, unless you have a copy of the game that’s way different from mine. Period. Anything else is cope. I have enough hours in this game to state this for an absolute fact as far as I’m concerned.

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We have video, lots of examples. Cope harder.

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I have a video of 9/11, I guess it’s happening minutely.

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9/11? You’re going to bring up something that happened to prove something else that happened didn’t happen?

Dang bro, that’s a whole new set of problems.

Sounds like a skill issue. (Observation AND logic.)

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Try being honest bud, I never said it doesn’t happen. Refer back to

Just because it can happen doesn’t mean it’s a severe issue that happens minutely. That’s just bad players coping and clutching to their little “SEE? IT CAN HAPPEN!!” to explain every single instance of themselves not paying attention. Same as “Oh that trapper was silent!”, it’s crazy how often that happens to teammates but for me I get it in about one in 200 games.

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K. You’re admitting it happens, now get out of the way of it getting fixed.

Because it really should be fixed. Irritating isn’t really on the list of things people look for in their games.

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It does get fixed though, one of the examples you cited was fixed. The elevator facespawn on refinery delta. One of the popular recordings of it is actually my video although I havent seen it posted anywhere in a while.
You’re going to have to stop being a baby and acknowledge that I can simultaneously acknowledge the bugs are real and want them fixed, but also tell you you’re having a skill issue if you say it happens minutely on every map.

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Sounds like a personality issue. Have you considered therapy?

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Just keeping it one hundred with you buddy, no need to lash out.

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Bro, I locked you down until you admitted we’re right, 100% and in every way right, and you still want to obstruct and try to flex even after that admission.

Sounds like a personality issue.

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I’ve from the start said it can happen, you’re just trying to re-envision the argument in some weird attempt at a gotcha. I already pointed that out, but you keep bringing the same lie.

The literal first reply to this thread:

I’d call pathological lying a personality issue, personally.

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And you don’t see how that’s a flip flop and an obstruction?

What kind of issue that that then? Personality or logic?

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I don’t see how that’s a flip flop nor an obstruction, explain it to me. Explain what an obstruction is while you’re at it. What am I obstructing?

Basically the pattern is this.

Guy comes into the forums to complain about a real thing that is happening. It might be serious or just an irritation.

Someone else denies it’s happening, or claims it’s not a problem because it’s not a problem for them, usually because they think it’s a flex.

Make huge long distracting replies about how it’s really something else or the guy complaining just is low skill for caring about a bug.

The effect these posts have is distraction. Sometimes it’s a whole page of pictures of a totally different issue.

Granted that usually make the guy doing it look silly, but that’s small compensation when it gets in the way of improving the game.

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I didn’t do that. I explicitly said the bug exists, but it’s tied to map locations and very rare.

I didn’t do that either. Nothing spawns behind me in 99% of my games. It’s happened before but it’s not happening minutely. I’m not saying “things spawn behind me but I’m skilled enough to deal with them”, I’m saying that in the absolute vast majority of games, nothing spawns behind me (other than specials ofc) and I’m paying attention to environmental enemies, which is what I think people who say it’s happening every game are actually running into. Which doesn’t need a fix, as it’s not a bug.

Your entire angle is misrepresenting what I’m saying. What do you get out of that?

As for improving the game I think that sticking to the truth in what is actually happening in games in your feedback helps the devs improve the games the most. I’d hate if they spent time and resources hunting down the “minutely poxwalker bug” when it’s really just people playing with the latest mr beast video on in the background.

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People here literally provided you with multiple video evidences of cheatspawns in different situations and you bring up something like a 9/11 being filmed as a counterpoint?

At least have the dignity to admit you might be biased instead of… this.

If your point is that it’s not only a bug but also so rare it’s barely relevant’, then seeing multiple video evidence of this ‘bug’ (that’s pretty hard to catch the game red-handed on commiting unless you’re explicitly looking out for it btw) with your rebuttal being that a 9/11 was filmed appears insensitive at the best.

If neither of us have any data on how often it happens, then I believe cheat spawns happening often enough to annoy players is the more valid metric than “it’s rare so irrelevant and btw 9/11 was filmed”.

Also, I don’t think cheat spawns are a bug but that’s just my feeling. Admittedly though, I don’t think that it being intentional or not is a valid metric on whether it should be actually kept in the game. The previous two ‘crafting’ systems were intentional as well, and we’re all glad they’re gone.

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I’m not sure if this is an incredibly hard concept to grasp, but my point was that there being video evidence does not speak to its frequency. I never denied it’s a thing that happens, so video evidence of it happening does relatively little to disprove my point.
Hilarious how you’re trying to pearl clutch about a lighthearted counterpoint though. I’ll double down though:

There’s also a ton of videos of 9/11.

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Now you’re just lying. People brought up the video evidence because you claimed there are no cheat spawns:

And when you have been proved wrong, you shifted your point to ‘they happen but are rare’. It’s pretty clear you’re trying to gaslight people here to try and save face now that you’ve been exposed. I’m sorry, but I’m not in for such a waste of time.

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I haven’t been proven wrong, in the very same post I said:

It’s crazy how you guys are fighting strawmen. Good job, you’re proving it can happen. I fully agree, never said anything to the contrary. I never flipflopped nor changed what I’m saying. You can quote me on everything I said in this thread and I stand by it.

If you can’t even pay attention to a simple 3 sentence post, then I’m not surprised you get backstabbed by every poxwalker on the map. You seem to severely lack attention span.

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