It seems that there are many changes in Havoc 2.0

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No new weapons

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but also I knew and just want to point this out always wondering how ‘soon’ is like 9 months in fat shark time.

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Some old weapons were updated and generally buffed to be more competitive and viable, but no new weapons it seems.

Shredder autopistol is back in business among other things.

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These remind me of the colors for the seeds of chaos from Chaosgate: Daemonhunters.

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-require strategy
-insanely op perks, ultimates and weapons that solve every issue significantly better than everything else completely untouched this patch

Okay fatshark

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Most of the changes seem great, it’s baffling that they got no mention in the official announcement and that we have to rely on YouTube for them.

I wish they added the spawns and daemonhost ritual to auric maelstroms.

I really dislike the new mutators though: they are basically the new beastmen banners, with fewer ways to counter them.
They are extremely gamey, they work in a way that’s way to reminiscent of MMO mechanics, the lowest denominator of the gaming industry imo. They’ll dictate how you play in a way that’s artificial, and bring with them things like “DPS checks” that are the nails in the coffin of a healthy community.
Even if you think I went a bit too far there, and you are not bothered by their rainbow appearance, you have to admit something that artificial has no place in the complex visceral combat system of a tide game.
They’ll ruin immersion a bit at the very least.
It’s as if they looked at pus-hardened skin, arguably the worst and most uninspired mutator of the last iteration and thought “Yeah. We did good there.”

TL:DR They did all of those changes, wrote thousands of lines of code as jsat points out, to have that incredibly complex behaviour locked behind a mode now dominated by MMO gameplay

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watched the video looks like good changes to havoc, well thought out and should do the job , doubt it will be enough to get me to bother trying it but looks like good work. those deckchairs on the titanic were not this well arranged.

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