Hi i have returned to talk about survivalist aura

Again you’re not reading what I said, Lasguns are fine as they are now.
I said that specifically

Infantry Autogun
Braced Autogun
Shredder Autopistol
I would also counter argue your point, no you cannot play gun only. you will never be able to play gun only in darktide. The gameplay foundation does not allow for it. You will have to use melee to gain distance/breathing room as I have said before in a previous post.

i have this for my recon lasgun build
i mainly play shovel on my lucius so


My other 3 builds are all completely melee oriented. recon lasgun build is mostly just counterfire for ranged patrols and back to melee shock maul.

fair nuff for some reason I didn’t see the quoted box

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no worries. i appreciate your input on the discussion regardless

just to put into perspective of what I usually play on average
I play knife revolver infiltrate. and yes i use damage aura. I also have a cheerleader damage aura build


boring cheerleader dueling / plasma build


Since the first iteration of veteran rework tree i have ALWAYS majority played as Cheerleader veteran. It would be nice to have some more gunout playstyle

Typical Vermintide/Darktide player when other people views don’t lineup with their own worldview.

Naqara has been extremely polite and sensible in his suggestions, you’re the problem here with your overractions.

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I mean you literally are doing personal attacks just own up to it. I’m not bothered. I just wish you would actually elaborate give context examples to defend your position instead of leaving it so weak. You say I got ratio’d but I saw decent responses and alternatives to what I’m suggesting which is great for handling the ammo issue.

Even your logic here doesn’t add up. Infinite ammo won’t save a bad player on higher difficulty.

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Here’s a brilliant idea? Get this… Start finding ammo crates and tins to be on your merry way. Also, maybe stop spamming your range like 90% of the time too. Damn, it’s not that hard. It’s awfully funny, because I don’t seem to have such an issue with this, hmm. It’s magical solution to your problem. I never said it would save them at all. Wtf are you smoking? lol Did I literally type this out? Literally no. That’s not even the point. My god man.

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here is the problem. you’re assuming i dont when i already do. lol
We lying now?


The implication here being I need infinite ammo to not die is crazy

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I’ve had enough games in the past where I’m the only person on the team who didn’t have orange ammo in auric. If everyone is playing ranged build, like Gunlugger and Gunpsyker, it means ammo will be nearly extinct on the map. Not to mention some players pick up ammo even if they don’t need, they just spam E on every loot box they see.

I’ve played non-lasguns builds on Vet and had to melee more instead, because I didn’t want to fight over ammo with my teammates.

While this is more of a team-specific problem (bad teamplay and bad team comp that features too many ranged-heavy builds), doesn’t mean OP deserves the ridicule of calling him a bad player for absolutely fair suggestions.

He got ratioed into the exosphere over it.

He got “ratioed” by the same five people with multiple posts in this thread.

It’s a tale old as time on this forums.

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Why are you so pressed that you’re crashing out over this anyway?

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There is more than one difficulty, the hardest isn’t supposed to be easy. Buffing everything again would put player power above sister of the thorn. Endless powercreep and number scaling is not a good idea, and is a waste of developer time

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I didn’t ask for it to be easy, I asked for more ranged variety sided gameplay to be opened up.

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Buffing survivalist buffs Bolter and plasma, what’s the point in that.

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Nothing changes for those 2 weapons, they have slow pull out time, reload time, and one has overheat.

The buffs that he suggests give back 5 ammo instead of 1 ammo every 5 seconds.

To gain more ammo that you spent means tracking Survivalist’s cooldown and not shooting at all before it goes back up.

This ALSO means not shooting common shooters at all, which do not return any ammo.

Unless you headshot or crit with specific build, Bolter needs two ammo per Gunner on bodyshots (assuming you never miss shooting far away targets). Bigger enemies need more than that. More so In Havoc.

This will not triviliaze your precious gameplay of spamming melee left click 50% of the mission and instakilling the majority of melee enemies in 1-2 hits.

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I’m not as stubborn or hardheaded as you. If you can make and defend the point reasonably I will change my mind, but coming from you I doubt any capability to do so.

Nothing I’ve said or done was dishonest or rage baiting past my initial post of 5%.

I took nothing out of context. Show me what I took out of context?
You are the only one crashing out hard though…

near infinite supply of ammo

with no cooldown function like before

Meanwhile suggestions in this thread:

  • Make Survivalist a mandatory talent.
  • Slightly more ammo for non-lasguns which spend half a clip on some enemies.
  • Slightly more ammo for Vet and the same 1% for teammates not to break the game.
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Yeah, literally you a few others, so what? Still, 98% say otherwise smart@ss. I have no issues with making it internal, just not in the way you suggest.