Helbore Idea - melee like Grenade gauntlet

I was playing with the Grenade Gauntlet, and I thought, maybe it’d be neat to have the Helbore work like a decent melee weapon. Give a slower weapon swap speed like before, require you charge it longer, but increase the damage ceiling on charged shots, and then have it function like a decent melee weapon with it’s own moveset, including light and heavy attacks. Good dodge too. ADS instead of blocking.

Just a thought.

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Heavy could be the sweep of the strong mark but with proper cleave and lights could be the stabs. I like that idea

Please, please, no. Even with “proper cleave”.

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Neat idea, tho hellbore is fine the way it is the gun doesn’t need anymore changes to its identity just a simple stab with bayonet is fine (considering its now lowkey op after all the buffs, just difficult to use for beginners) also the bayonet is still plenty strong if you got hotshot blessing. I would however like a rework to the melee attack on the brown mark, its just bad no matter how much i tried experimenting with it.

I don’t know that the Helbore is super popular in the condition it’s currently in. Non-charged, non-ADS shots are pretty much useless. At the very least, some new melee moves for light attacks instead of non-ADS shots could be quite useful.

Alternatively, I was thinking, it might be interesting if you could use a ranged weapon in the melee slot, so long as you have that ranged weapon also equipped in the ranged weapon slot. Then, it could have a set of blessings and properties for when it’s equipped in the melee slot.

It’s not as complex as it sounds; but it would require creating more melee animations specifically for ranged weapons with bayonets and melee use, some new game logic on the programming side, and a selection of blessings and properties that are accessible when it’s used in the melee slot. Perhaps even it’s own mastery for use in melee.

Yeah i don’t think fatshark will go the extra mile to rework the melee on hellbore lmao, we will probably see a concept like this on a monetized class at best. Also am fine with hellbore being unpopular its only powerful if you learn how to use it that should be standard for alot of weapons instead of a one trick pony gun.

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