Heavy Hitter Talent Typo or Doesn't Work as it's Described

[Geadly]

Issue Type (Required):

Talents

Issue Description (Required):

Heavy Hitter’s description: “+5% Damage for 7.5s on Heavy Attack Hit. Stacks 5 times.”
However, this talent does not apply to anything but Melee Damage

Even tho Payback Time’s description says: “+20% Damage for 5s after being Hit by a Melee Attack” this Talent does apply to everything, including Ranged Damage

2 Videos that I have uploaded as Supporting Evidence show that Talent doesn’t apply to Bleed and Ranged Damage

Steps to Reproduce (Required):

1. Play Ogryn
2. Take Heavy Hitter
3. Stack 5 stacks
4. Shoot your Ranged weapon and see that it doesn’t apply

Reproduction Rate (Required):

Constant (100%)

Platform (Required):

PC - Steam

Upload Supporting Evidence (Optional):

[Ralendil]

@Geadly

However, this talent does not apply to anything but Melee Damage

I may be stupid… how can you perform an heavy attack with a… ranged weapon??

[Geadly]

@Ralendil

how can you perform an heavy attack with a… ranged weapon??

You don’t need to do that, but you can do that with weapon’s Special
Also, every Ranged Weapon’s swing counts as Heavy for Ogryn

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But the problem itself is about consistency
I mean the Talent says Damage

And there are some talents that say Melee Damage

There is also a talent that says Base Damage

So why is Heavy Hitter’s description says Damage and not Melee Damage
Some people confuse Damage and Base Damage

[Ralendil]

@Geadly

every Ranged Weapon’s swing counts as Heavy for Ogryn

Count

Not “is”

For me the description is accurate (played my ogryn yesterday with this keystone btw )

[Jonn]

@Ralendil

how can you perform an heavy attack

You gain and maintain stacks with heavy attacks, but during the duration of the buff, going by the description you should get a +%damage buff not exclusive to melee. I think the confusion comes from then the implied ability to switch between weapons and thus gaining the damage buff on ranged weapons aswell for the duration of the buff.

@Geadly

But the problem itself is about consistency

Steam guides have been saying that it only counts for melee damage, so it is most likely just a description error.

[Geadly]

Also, Payback Time actually does work on Ranged Damage, even tho it says Damage
Why?

@Ralendil

Not “is”

It also is a Heavy Attack, because it acts exactly like one, gains all the buffs and activates everything like that

@Jonn

I think the confusion comes from then the implied ability to switch between weapons

Exactly, because, for example, Payback Time’s Description says that the same thing as Heavy Hitter, but works for Ranged Damage too

[Ralendil]

@Jonn

You gain and maintain stacks with heavy attacks, but during the duration of the buff, going by the description you should get a +%damage buff not exclusive to melee.

I see the problem… you’re right, they should add the word “melee”

[FatsharkJulia]

The issue is the description, as you’ve uncovered it should indeed only apply to melee.