Well here we are again. You’ve shunted us off the Havoc 40s mountain like prophesied which I eventually expected (and still disagree with as a concept in general).
However, I was even more surprised that you did so without it really being much of a new campaign. Really? One new modifier and shifting the maps/modifiers around, and you justify that as being good enough to throw people back onto the crappy grind of a treadmill that is Havoc ranking?
Climbed to 40 twice now and it sucked (particularly the 2nd time), and it is a sentiment that is widely shared in the community. It was at least palatable once at 40, and I was hoping you’d at least let us stay there until you at least had something significant in mind to change (and hopefully banish the de-ranking entirely).
I’ve already posted how Havoc de-ranking encourages a gated/toxic/elitist community, so I won’t bother posting much about that again, but can you guys seriously stop screwing with your player-base for what is nakedly, insultingly, and offensively a shitty retention tactic? It’s disrespectful of their time, and is beneath what is, otherwise, a fantastic game.
This, I’ve been working so hard for months to finally get a 40 under my belt on Sunday for them to take it away from me on Monday. It’s a huge kick in the nuts.
It already is “seasons” as FS considers it. That’s why the reset. But at least they announced it last time between 1/2. Guess it slipped their minds with everything else happening this go around.
monthly wipe derank like some sort of extraction looter
and mmo since you have to interact with havoc in order to not derank due to inactivity
it’s bad still
The derank is total BS. You get to 40, you get to keep 40. Having to grind again is not fun. I want the challenge of playing 40 with various builds and helping friends reach the mountain top. This derank creates the opposite incentive of fun. Not a good decision by FS at all.
This is the big disappointment of the update for me. The last derank was a bit annoying, but understandable given Havoc changed so drastically. It felt fair to earn our way back up to 40. This time? It really kills my enthusiasm to play the mode.
Havoc games are long and come with a decent chance of failure. Grinding from 30 back to 40 with randoms is at least a 10 hour grind for most of us. Not all of us have that much time. De-ranking us alongside an event, a new class, a new story, new Mortis Trials… and without a significant change to Havoc to go along with it? I feel demotivated to play the mode.
I don’t think the developers quite understand what makes Havoc fun. I’ve been 40 for months, but my friend group I play with once a week had just finally just finished working our way back to 40 and was looking forward to experimenting and messing around without having to worry about losing. Now it’s back to the super serious grind. It really takes the sense of achievement out of the whole thing when ranks reset with no warning, no rewards, and no significant changes.
Right now, the reward is being able to play 40’s with no penalty once you get there. If you’re going to keep up these resets, please remove the weekly de-rank for inactivity, please make it clear how long a season will be so we know what to expect, and please give some kind of appreciable reward for your participation and highest achieved rank during that time. Crafting materials are not enough.
Otherwise, just let us stay at 40 so we can enjoy the mode for what it is. Havoc is by far the most interesting game mode introduced thus far for many of us, so can we please just be allowed to enjoy the mode without the additional stress of constantly worrying about rank or if we have time to play it each week? Thank you.
