Fatshark, please do something about this cheat (Edit: Now Deleted)

Not everything you record is down to ego, It’s weird that you think that’d be the only reason to archive something you might personally enjoy to share especially when your in darktides case, 3 teammates, are bots it just sounds like you want to talk around that point without addressing the fact that things you might be proud of however small mean nothing when held up to your own purity test.

Especially when you’re so quick to grandstand about things that are usually strictly clientside but don’t want to pull on that thread to talk about the other 3 potential players, including you, that could be benefiting from this

I haven’t played pugs in ages

Obviously /s

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Yeah I always throw in a report when one of these pops up so the heads up is good. Rather these things are off the nexus after a brief bout here than just silently accepted

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You(s) are the ones that keep bringing it up and demand “proof”, proof of what exactly is still unclear.

Dear gods, you still don’t get it do you ( I mean you didn’t before), you’re not benefiting anyone (except yourself) by using your cheaty mods, you’re cheating the rest of your team too.
You think you’re doing them a favor!? You’re doing them a disservice.

Do they still teach ethics in school? I suggest you look at some night classes or something.

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The problem is that he doesn’t see that his vision is totally subjective.
Several here would like that no mod are allowed. This is not subjective, this can seem a little too much… however, this is easy to understand.

What he says is that he thinks that several mods are cheats. And the definition of what is a cheat mod, is, sadly, totally subjective.
I won’t search his posts, but I remember that Baldwin tried to explain it to him (without any success).

Also, let’s say it… I used spidey sense mod for 1 month, just cause of his claims. Well, I have removed it. The so cheaty mod that was giving me an incredible advantage (considering what several claim) was totally useless cause I was not paying attention to it.
I have also seen several claiming that perspective (mod that allow you to play in TPS) was seen as a cheat… cause you could see what was behind you. What they missed is that you had a disadvantage cause of it on aiming. I don’t use it actually, cause with it I loose 10-20% DPS (harder to aim heads).
In fact, the guys that claim that several mods that have not been sanctioned by fatshark, and so are approved, are cheats have never tested themselves these mods. But they know! They don’t need to test… there is no matter of a discussion on this, they know that you get a giant advantage.

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Hi, Baldwin here. Yes, this is exactly the thing in my mind: there are mods that are cheesy and cheaty — which some people will claim using is an ethical failing while still also making mods that fundamentally alter the experience of the game “as intended” — but ultimately, because the game is server-authoritative, they can’t do insane-o things like give you infinite health or teleport you around the level or insta-kill everything.

So don’t worry about it. If using a different crosshair setup makes you enjoy the game more, go for it. It’s a video game. Don’t worry about if the other guys in your team are good at the decoding mini-game (hello! is me!) or if they’re cheating it. The skill ceiling in the game is sky high, so focus on bettering your play. You probably won’t ever see anyone you suspect of cheesy cheating again anyway.

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What was this particular mod, I’m curious.

It enabled the aim assist from consoles for any input method and also exposed variables to make them more/overly responsive.

I downloaded it before it was removed, and I intend to test it thoroughly to understand it completely, but I suspect it’ll amount to very very little in the end (like most mods).

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God mode can affect others experience with the game i.e squad goes down and John Doe is getting absolutely deleted yet he cannot die and everyone is forced to watch. One could also outright ignore rescuing other players with god mode. Someone aiming marginally better, I don’t care.

Fwiw I’ve never encountered someone who was using mods in a way that seemed cheaty in any game I’ve played, or had anyone remark on my choice of mods. Not saying it doesn’t happen ever but it’s very very unlikely to actually affect you. People just like to rant about stuff on the forum.

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Yup! Nearing 2k hours here (eek!) and never ever once have I played a game where I thought, “this guy is cheating!”

Sure, I’ve see shirtless dudes, and been serially vacuum capsuled (which technically break the rules of the modding policy), but I’ve never broken a sweat or spared a second thought over anyone else’s performance.

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I see the electrokinetic staff macro users a lot. Not a mod in the traditional sense but I just leave those games. Even saw it on Havoc today and left it

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You fool! You should have stayed and benefited from it, or something.
Have you tried pretending it wasn’t happening instead of dropping?

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I should’ve acknowledged that while these players make the game boring, these players are actually helping me out (by making me get my resources faster (which I don’t need because I’m capped on them))

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lol no you should do whatever brings you the most enjoyment in this video game. If someone is abusing OP techniques/weapons that FS should fix or balance and that bothers you, you should move onto the next PUG. And if you think someone is using Spidey Sense so they don’t get trapped or Full Auto so they don’t ruin their hands or being annoying with Vacuum Capsule or whatever and that bothers you, then you should move onto the next PUG.

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m1 macro is the only thing I leave for, I would rather the enemies have the slightest chance to damage me

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I personally get more enjoyment out of my video game when I don’t have to leave pugs because of people exploiting/macroing, but that’s idealist talk I guess. At least I get a cheat mod of my own, disconnect mod and psych ward to skip half the loadscreens in this game.

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Yea we’ve all got our cheat mods that smooth out the experience to our tastes. Gpk has his mod that removes visual clutter. I’ve got my mod that prevents party finder invites from taking over my screen in the middle of a mission; a benefit most of the player base doesn’t get to enjoy.

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I use it for last wound effect (if it is “disable screen effects”).
I have it enabled for stealth (but I don’t use stealth actually and I use it rarely)… Cause the effect is too strong.

But guess what… I feel that it negates totally the problem of stealth that is… You see close to nothing:

  • on zealot the grey layer is so strong that you can’t see far away
  • on veteran the dark green layer prohibits you to aim for an enemy that is not close to you.

So, in fact, his mod could be totally qualified as a cheat mod according to his own definition. Sad, but true.
A human cannot see things clearly when these layers are applied, and this mod permits it.

A good example of the field of subjectivity.

EDIT: by no means I think that the mod that removes visual clutter is a cheat

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Have any of you actually used aim assist in darktide? Its nowhere near apex legends/battlefield 2042/COD bullshi1t(no-no word) that just deletes recoil and snaps onto targets. You’d be griefing yourself if you tried using it in a horde shooter before you account for doing no damage with high finesse weapons like autoguns and infantry lasguns hitting all center mass

Does this mean that the aiming mod priority is set to the torso?