You lost this argument the moment you tried to act like DD doesn’t have 100% uptime in a mission above 13 outside of elevators. There isn’t more to say. I refuse to engage with such a disingenous bad faith premise.
PPPS: Nobody cares about in a vacuum. In mission performance is what’s actually relevant.
Funny you mate 
I’d rather be funny than waste my time arguing with someone who is literally lying and misrepresenting reality. There’s just no point. DD is perma up and anyone who disagrees hasn’t used it. Try playing the game more before trying to argue balance.
Explain how he is lying since he has stated pure facts that vets dont need to do anything to one shot crushers whereas psykers need to maintain DD stacks. This seems like pure copium from a Vet main who cant admit their class is the strongest.
Hang on…
You lost this argument the moment you tried to act like DD doesn’t have 100% uptime in a mission above 13 outside of elevators. There isn’t more to say. I refuse to engage with such a disingenous bad faith premise.
PPPS: Nobody cares about in a vacuum. In mission performance is what’s actually relevant.
So… which is it?
Is DD always up 100% of the time, or does it drop off? What part of in mission are you talking about here? Do Psykers spawn with 15 stacks of DD now? Did the servers degrade that much since the last patch?
Once again, I’ll repeat myself:
Yes, DD + SG are both very powerful
I am purely highlighting how you seem to be specifically against Psykers for whatever reason. Not once did I disagree that melee psyker can be obscenely powerful. You’re attempting to equate something that requires a setup to something that objectively doesn’t, which I don’t think is a fair argument. We’re talking absolute minimum effort. Believe what you want, I don’t care, I’m just pointing it out.
Anyway.
Have a nice day, mate 
Because if you play a game with DD, it’ll be stacked unless you intentionally let it drop off. There is no inconvenience or prequisite here.
You’re arguing that a buff that functionally has 100% uptime should not be considered permanent. Do I have to explain why that’s disingenous?
Yeah let’s argue semantics I’m sure it’ll make you seem less dishonest. You’re a character man, just take the L
Its still matter of fact that there exists a condition for psykers to meet before they can achieve what Vets can permanently. While yes, psykers above a certain skill can maintain DD permanently, there are plenty of situations that can cause even experienced players to start losing stacks.
There aren’t. It’s literally just elevators and literally the first group of enemies gets it back up to 15. It’s functionally permanent. If it’s functionally permanent, it can be considered a permanent buff. Anything else is nonsensical pedantry.
So youve never had a volley fire vet pinpoint every DD target before you can even identify them. This is Besides the fact that DD is a keystone for psykers to reach compared to the standards talents vets require to acheive better results.
Let’s not pretend that people don’t run keystoneless since forever anyway. It’s not like “vets get all this AND a keystone, too”
I’d be hard pressed to tell you I’ve ever queued into a volley fire vet, yes. Jokes aside no, you have a gun or staff yourself and once you realize the highlights aren’t actually RNG you stay permacapped because it’s quite easy to predict where they pop up, whereas the Vet won’t be killing in that order.
Calling them RNG btw is another good indicator the person talking hasn’t actually used DD. It really makes you wonder what convinces someone to go online and discuss a talent he hasn’t used. They were never RNG and since a recent patch they have become even less RNG.
Done editing your comments yet chief?
Ill come back once youve spat it out since that last one doubled in size, clearly youre struggling to get it all in one go
Why are you so mad
Mate if you could see the grin im wearing rn
No wonder people argue on here, its pretty fun
Idk you’re dipping out of making counterpoints because I edited a post before you even replied and added soemthing to it. I think you’re seething
Ok, now its been a few mins and youre done editing, here we go. Vets can literally achieve all the talents to one shot crushers AND pick a keystone up too, they just dont cause most people (except me) dont like the vet keystones and would rather put the points elsewhere.
