I could agree, if without the current PG, the weapon specialist Veteran is essentially not an option, then yeah, it would narrow down the build selection. If it’s still kind of the same but with the fixed gun, then no. I don’t know, I’m not playing high Havocs with Vet, I don’t know the breakpoints, and I for sure cannot test them with the fixes implemented.
What I would say is there is an OBVIOUS PROBLEM with both Vet and Zealot in terms of their talent tree design. For Vet, as far as I know, the developers first released the talent tree without the keystones, so the keystones themselves may be kind of rushed in design - specifically MF(I just don’t like it at all - a high precision condition blessing that also limits my mobility and ability to reposition just feels wrong). All the other ultimates are nowhere close to VoC. All the other grenades can’t really compare in effectiveness with Shredders. Vet has a lot of nodes, many even good, but the problem is that its biggest ones are in dire need of readjustment. It also can’t freely switch between ults, blitzes, and auras like Arbites and Ogryns now can, and Psykers somewhat can too.
And yes, I’m going to state it again and again if needed - if the most used way of playing such an iconic and powerful gun as Plasma is spamming lights, then it’s just bad game design. Better game design: powerful but self-dangerous heavies that are worth it, more spammable but much less powerful lights for specials headtaps. For any meaningful and challenging encounter, the player should be required to manage heat. If not, then why even have a heat mechanic in the first place?
Heavy pullout time, but not as long as the Bolter’s, that is an automatic fire gun anyway. Heavy reload time. That’s good - high reward, high risk, and involved gameplay. Silly one-taps of everything, light spam with fast pullout time and no repercussions is bad game design.
If the Vet can’t live without his crutch, then it’s a Vet problem again. Ship the fix later with the Vet rework, and until then just buff some of his underperforming weapons so players aren’t forced to pick the crutch weapon.
You have your ground - no current Plasma, with current Vet = bad. My stand is - current Plasma is bad game design, current Vet is bad game design - let’s fix both. And I’m glad they’re not shipping the fixes right away. Let them cook.
