Daily quests should still give Emperor's Chests alongside shillings

They should just give us shillings alongside the chest’s content.
Increased amount the higher tier your chest is.

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I agree bring back the Emperor Chests or a select like one comment mentioned.

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Thanks I would also like a reason to play a game or two a day, dailies were just that. Shillings aren’t useful to anyone that doesn’t give a hoot about cosmetics, lol. So these dailies don’t really have a purpose anymore, being what they were and are now, they were useful for players sub~100 hours to login and get an upgrade or two a day, now it’s useless for pretty much everyone considering the amount (five shillings)

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Should just give the ability in Lohner’s Emporium to Buy Legend Emp chest’s with shillings, problem solved. Don’t like / care about cosmetics or have all cosmetics you want? Spend shillings on emp chests

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I would want both shillings and chest. But if I have to choose, I prefer shillings.

This change means lots of grind for new players or players who just occasionally played the game until the patch. Imo this was very short sighted and could ruin the game on the long term by lowering the influx of new or casual players due to the creation of an obstacle (intentionally or not doesn’t matter) they maybe are not willing or capable to accept.
There were two community letters/dev updates since it was confirmed that the issue was forwarded to the game design team here, but no mentioning of plans to better the situation or revert it.
In case the UI doesn’t support the dual solution (chest+shillings), i think it would be best to temporarily revert this change and maybe add some additional shillings to the weekly event rewards until the dual solution can be realized.
Or there could be simply new types of daily reward chests that are basically identical with the standard ones, but include an amount of shillings additionally to the normal rewards.

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I’m going to generalize some groups of players.

  • Players that have done all Challenges they have interest in, gathered every Red and Cosmetics in the game they care for, to the point where they can be driven bored of Cataclysm/Weaves. Wanting for more content.
  • Players whom are regular Champion/Legend players. Trying to get more Reds, be better at the game, fixing up their builds. In my case, attempting to pull other friends to the game in the process.
  • Players whom casually play. The silent majority. Recruit through Champion players whom do not care about having best things, builds, or mastering the game, preferring to simply play because they enjoy it for the sake of it.

The change from Emperor’s Chest on Daily’s to 5 Shillings harms everyone whom isn’t at the point of completing all of their goals in the game. It has vastly dampened my own willingness to play as often as I used to. I greatly enjoy the gameplay and genuinely want to push for Red Weapons on more characters… but my ability to do so has been extremely neutered, and the replacement for it is FIVE SHILLINGS for cosmetics that genuinely do not make nearly enough of a difference in my gameplay whatsoever to be worth looking at the store for.

This, alongside some stability issues since the patch that have yet to be fixed, has convinced me to stop pushing friends to buy the game. Because if I were coming into Vermintide 2 as a new player and found out about this being a change the Devs were proud of and unwilling to compromise with… I’d leave. I’d refund it if possible. I have no interest in wasted time. I greatly enjoy Vermintide 2’s gameplay. I despise practically everything that holds it up. Random Random Random with Random and Random this that. And the Daily’s system that used to give me more hope of eventually reaching parity with other players has been removed for a store that gives direct access to that slightly purpler skin that veterans couldn’t get to drop out of Commendation Chests. The Daily three attempts to finally get a 2nd Red Trinket alongside the Chests/Vaults I’m getting while playing made it not feel like a shitshow. The ability to stockpile Chests passively whilst helping friends in Veteran so I can open em on my non-favorite characters for chances at gearing them properly is gone.

Why not both? Why nerf progression? Why remove more methods to reach parity with other players?
Weaves allow you to reach parity with other players. Why not interconnect Weaves with Main Game? Why is it an ISLAND of content rather than an EXPANSION that has a reason to exist? Why when rerolling Traits do I have a chance to reroll the same Trait 7 times in a row? Why can I spend resources to get worse items than what they were? Why… a lot of things…

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Dailies should be 10 shillings. If you do one every day, you get 70 per week, which is just a bit more then 1 weekly quest. Sounds good.

Then also put Emperors Chests (Champion) on the emporium for 5 shillings. That’ll let people that want one or the other pick which one they want.

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I can understand your point of view… But also who plays around at low-mid level has a lot of possibilities to farm chests… While there is one only way to farm shillings. Moreover cosmetics can make happy everyone (a low level player could want his favourite hat more than a random red item)… While chests soon or later will be useless.
Anyway I have 1300 hours and I still miss one red… Despite this, I prefer 5 shillings. The % to get that red from dayly chests are really low anyway. I prefer to search It through deeds.

If you go for cosmetics you’re most likely into the game already. What is being proposed is that it shouldn’t be catered especially to long time players with the shillings instead of the progressing players. I’m in the same situation as you but I wholeheartedly support the argument of bringing back emp chests (or giving both).

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5 shillings is an almost insignificant value if you’re aiming for cosmetics, new player or otherwise. Quoting this Reddit post:

If you do every daily quest for ONE YEAR, you can possibly afford two rare hats. TWO.

You’d have more rare cosmetics through commendation chests. I’d actually take commendation chests, with their worse rarity items compared to emperor chests, than 5 shillings.

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Yeah but you can’t get everything from commendation, and shillings are impossible to get outside of quests

In you suggestion: 350 Shillings per week for the weeklies + 70 Shillings per week for the daily. At 5 Shillings per chest that would be 84 Emperor Chests per week… That seems a bit crazy to me, to be honest…

It’s just more mindless typical fatshark grind to keep you busy while they desperately cobble together some new content noone wants or asked for.

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Apr. 2020 feedback: https://www.reddit.com/r/Vermintide/comments/fy6df8/how_is_5_shillings_a_day_still_a_thing/

Just need to vent a bit because I really don’t get how this is still around. You would think that it would have had some change by now with the number of people who complained about the daily champion chests being gone, but no. I get that they don’t want to give away too many shillings so that people have something to do for months to come, but the least they could do is bump it up to 15 so that we get 105 a week if we do them every day over the laughable 35 a week that it’s at now.

As someone who dropped the most cosmetics from legend runs and bogenhafen chests (before WOM), this money is useless to me. For every DLC I get plenty of coins, so I could buy orange or blue skins I didn’t have, and now I do daily and weekly for some money I can’t use. At least from daily chests I had chance to drop another red for dust. But this is only minor problem for this game, because it’s dying. It lack content, and adding scoreboard for co-op game is waste of time. Random waves? Wow … it’s like a bones instead of full dinner, really, they’re not even random, so you might feel cheated as well. This chests problem only gives you headache, but players are focused on them instead of real problems. I hope you manage to do something that will ressurect this game once again, and I’m saying it out of love for that game.

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The coins are utterly useless already. If only we had actual skins to spend them on, not absolutely pointless recolors… Same goes for majority of weapon skins. Just a bit of purple glow isn’t that awesome.

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Some more feedback on the daily quest shillings:

the more cosmetics they add, the more annoying the shilling rewards become

5 shillings for a daily is actually offensive

The problem for me isn’t that you get shillings; it’s the fact you get so little for the dailies. 5 shillings? Are you actually kidding me? That’s not worth it at all. Just give us back the chests if you’re going to be so stingy with your shillings.

I feel compelled to remark that once they gave us the 5 shilling dailies they raised the prices of the items accordingly. So it’s an insult in more ways than one: you are actually grinding to get even.

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