Combat Axes inconsistent Maniac damage on heavy overhead

[OxygenCrimson]

Issue Type (Required):

Weapons

Issue Description (Required):

All Combat Axes (Achlys, Antax, Rashad) deal lower damage to Maniacs with their heavy overhead attacks than with any other attack, despite dealing more damage to all other enemy types. This inconsistency is seen only on heavy overhead attacks, as even heavy swipe on Achlys Combat Axe deals equal damage to Maniacs as to all other enemy types

Steps to Reproduce (Required):

1. Go into Psykhanium
2. Pick any Combat Axe
3. View attack breakdowns, heavy overheads will have noticeably lower damage to Maniacs but higher to anything else compared to any other attack
4. Use light attack on any Maniac
5. Use heavy overhead on any Maniac
6. The damage from heavy overhead will be lower

[PC] Do You Use Mods? (Optional):

Yes, but I haven’t tried disabling them

Reproduction Rate (Required):

Constant (100%)

Platform (Required):

PC - Steam

Upload Supporting Evidence (Optional):

[ForumWarrior]

Not a bug

[Cella]

This bug has been acknowledged multiple times since release

[OxygenCrimson]

Has it? Sorry, I haven’t searched the forums this time - just forgot. I’d expect the heavies to be at least equal, it’s one of those damn odd quirks like with Bolter doing 50% against Infested for no reason whatsoever - just worse.

Welp, hope they patch it in the next update. There’s really no reason to keep it as it is.

[Ralendil]

Please correct weapon damages on maniacs for Combat axe

Issue Type (Required): Weapons Issue Description (Required): Several weapons have incorrect damage tables. Combat axes are the ones I have identified as such. In fact, against maniacs, with these two weapons light attacks do better damages than heavy ones. See Combat axe [image][image] Steps to Reproduce (Required): Open inventory Inspect a combat axe Check light attack damages for maniac Switch to heavy attack and see that damages are lower than for light attacks

@ForumWarrior

Not a bug

now it is

@FatsharkJulia

I understand this is related to:

Issue Type (Required): Weapons Issue Description (Required): On the Rashad Combat Axe, heavy attacks do about half as much damage as light attacks to Maniacs. This is the only weapon type I have seen work this way, and it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me. Heavy attack should do at least the same, but probably more damage to Maniacs. The stagger values are also much lower, which makes even less sense. Heavy attack overheards on Maniacs should absolutely do more damage and stagger than light att…

Which I queried last month internally.

I can now say we recognise there are inconsistencies, and we’re working to clear this up.

[Ralendil]

@OxygenCrimson

it’s one of those damn odd quirks like with Bolter doing 50% against Infested for no reason whatsoever - just worse.

This is the weakness of bolt weapon

Like combat axe should still have a maniac weakness… but not inverted damage chart. This point needs to be fixed.

[zaygr]

They did ‘fix’ it once, by reducing light attack maniac damage to the point the unchanged heavy attack maniac did do more damage than the light. Let’s say the change was really unpopular and was reverted a hotfix or 2 later.

[Rainman]

hopefully they address crits doing less damage on special activated eviscerator hits too

[Ralendil]

Post it as a bug

That’s better to track problems.

[FatsharkJulia]

We’re working on it.

[Ralendil]

@Rainman

hopefully they address crits doing less damage on special activated eviscerator hits too

Can you, please, confirm that you took this problem in consideration? Thank you. (if confirmed, did not noticed myself)

[FatsharkJulia]

I don’t believe that’s included in the upcoming changes. But it is in our database, and will be reviewed.

[OxygenCrimson]

It wouldn’t strike me as a bug if it wasn’t for Achlys’ 1st heavy which does full damage to Maniacs. Even if the axes are meant to be weaker against Maniacs, 50% damage reduction is way overboard. It’s not like Maniac enemies are squishy.

[Rainman]

Eviscerator crit w special active does less damage than without special active

Issue Type (Required): Weapons Issue Description (Required): Getting a crit while special is active on new (mk2?) heavy eviscerator light-1 does less damage than non-active crit. Reproduction Rate (Required): Constant (100%) Platform (Required): PC - Steam Upload Supporting Evidence (Optional):

here’s a link to the report