Why did you respond with a serious response?
Pretty much. “Muh green circles pls nerf”
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What are those melee boss killers besides shade?
And aren’t the meta ranged weapons typically decent or better against bosses? Beam/fireball staves, regular or volley saltz crossbow, hagbane/longbow, huntsman longbow.
I don’t think people are usually complaining about things like grudgeraker and handgun. I think it’s a good thing that some ranged weapons aren’t good at everything.
Slayer and FK with x-sword.
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Slayer, especially with great axe, is also a decent boss killer.
For sienna, while beam and fireball are good (although fireball really not that much since it heats up a ton), conflag and bolt, both also meta, aren’t.
Regular crossbow is only good when you crit, without that it’s kinda garbage at it.
Both longbows are meh at best though.
I run slayer primarily and run with dualaxe/2h axe. 2h axe is alright, but it’s nothing close to a ranged character. Unless I’m tanking the boss or we’re clear, I run to take care of a horde instead. 2h axe would be fantastic if it was as good as Vermintide 1’s backstabbery.
Regular crossbow gets up to 25% crit on aimed shots and BH has his ult and guaranteed crits on top of that. Longbow is good with headshots, and a good Huntsman is still top ranged boss damage (from my experience).
What build though? There’s a ton of variance on Slayer. He can also be buffing team damage so there’s now to it than the muh green circles element. I do agree he’s at a disadvantage though, especially vs chaos spawn that’s simply too unpredictable.
Youve still no clue what your talking about and what my thoughts are… you go in with possible “this is the strongest build” bla bla bla…
Mace? Daggers? What is with Sword /Flamesword?
Sword on kerillians dont work… why? Because its Not your meta?
Changing traits are no needed nerfs… why?
Free ammunition for staying afk is fine?
Free crits with no costs are fine?
No aim laser with a huge hitbox is fine?
All you do is to say ,that i cry and im wrong, but i’m not…
Those careers/weapons/traits are strong, its ok, but not that theyre so easy to play vs everything. I already said, that they forgive to much. Care about ammunition? Lag of dmg? Aim? “Not to be safe?” “no dmg every seconds passiv?”
So it have to be actually really fine and every nerf would obviously affect your Meta.
LMB falchion needed a nerf, because it was ridiculous strong against all next to saltz other weapons, but ezpz careers and weapons dont?
Even Huntsman got nerfed till a lot of ppl complain about it,but he is still strong.
You can write down whatever you want , but you cant tell me that im so wrong.
Tell me some reasons , why they shouldnt build up the careers on skill and balance the weapons like all are really viable on Legend. Not only 1 or 2 per career.
But Hey, live in your meta as long as it lives and defend more ezpz wins…
Yes
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Nah, not even close. Maybe if he builds +40& monster/skaven/chaos, but then if others built like that, they’d outdamage him. His ult is pretty darn pathetic. You lose peripheral vision, you lose regular vision (dark monochrome is SO helpful when you need to aim), you lose movement speed…all for…a truly truly insignificant damage boost. Huntsman has been broken very, very badly. He still works as a dedicated elite and special killer, (but worse than BH), and his boss damage is naff.
Any decent Pyro or BH will outdamage him on bosses, without needing to build for it at all. In my experience.
No, he’s not. Like others in this thread have pointed out, if you had more experience maybe you would come to realize certain things. Huntsman has been neutered very badly, and now only works as a (worse) elitekiller than BH. If you think huntsman is the golden standard for how ranged careers should be in this game, you’re very, very much mistaken.
In my opinion.
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Why do you think, i didnt write him down in the open Comment? Because he feels much more balanced and isnt that easy to play.
But thats what you guys obviously dont get. It’s about balancing ez careers and their weapons… I dont know how much experience you guys got , that you still defend such ridiculous metagames… have to be your main career possibly
In my very first ever game on zealot, I did on it legend with a pug. I got highest amount of kills.
There is no ranged meta. It’s all about skill and playstyle.
Do I, as a player with 600+ hours in this game, get higher DPS when I play DPS classes, than when I play tank classes? Damn straight I do. I’d be pretty upset about the game balance if the DPS classes didn’t have higher damage than classes with 50% damage reduction, CC ults and cheat-death passives.
Learn the friggin’ game.
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Yeah its about dps/kills now… I get enough green circles on every career too and now?
Whats wrong with you?
There is no point some careers /weapons could do all really good with no disadvantage. Those careers are Meta and its obviously that these 3 careers are easy to play / easy to win.
They only lag in life, but thats why they got range…
No matter how often you repeat it, it’s not gonna become true. It’s just obvious you don’t know how to make other carreers work.
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The other funny part about this is that zealot is extremely easy to use and has actual, literal death protection built in on top of being extremely lethal and mobile while generating health faster than any other character. It’s hard to die as zealot.
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Yep. I’d argue IB is the easiest, most forgiving of all. But apparently some people think ranged is the easiest.
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I would very much like to weigh in and tell you all about how you are wrong, wrong, wrong, but at this point pretty much all has been said.
What I would like to add, though is:
At this point in the game, I feel like there is no career that is just plain better than others. I want to agree with you somehow in so far that Waystalker, Pyromancer and to some degree Bounty Hunter are somewhat easier to effectively use on higher difficulties, especially in regards to the things you listed in your initial post, than others.
But nothing you described is out of reach for various other careers by a longshot.
Put a good player behind the keyboard and they would still solo chaos patrols even if they had to play as the training dummy from Taal’s Horn Keep. Not as Witchhunter though. He just suuuuuuuuucks!
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Meele weapons need a bit of buffing other than the mace, mace is her go to weapon for dealing with elites and hordes efficiently , beam staff not that op, flaming head got nerfed already and doesnt always 1 shot cw, I think it needs to be a headshot and a crit for it to kill a cw. You can tinker around with stats like 10%vs chaos and armored and stack it as much as you can to always 1 shot it possibly. Pyro isn’t that strong.
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Haha, love this!
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New hero confirmed FS pls add.
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