I cant but help feeling that the power sword blessed with a power cycler still is too powerful.
In my mind, the veteran shouldnt be able to hold its own vs every mob as well as it does with a charged PS using cycler blessing.
It takes away a bit of the could be teamplay where the team could and in many cases should cover the veterans so they can use their guns. Instead we got veterans with blessed PS performing better damage wise than the other classes in melee.
Could the PS perhaps get a blessing or effect that is less powerful but instead buffs the ranged wesapons instead?
Charge the PS - gain 10 golden bullets or whatever when you next shoot with your ranged wpn.
Just a thought on how to reinforce the veterans roll as a ranged beast instead of a melee PS one
It is not like a vet will never use their gun, just because they also have a melee weapon. Veteran players (like players of the other classes) tend to use the weapon that is appropriate for the current engagement.
When it is appropriate (and also when it is not), veterans will usually use their guns, and the teammates will usually not defend them.
If zealot/ogryn players get outperformed in melee by a veteran, it is a skill issue on their side.
You bring up the same old points, which still have the same old counterarguments.
Please stop it.
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Ogryn players complain about the Ogryn dealing less damage than other classes, while completely ignoring that it is by far the tankiest class in the game and lets you facetank basically anything, like a lore accurate big idiot.
A class that is so tanky and requires such little skill to survive, SHOULD deal less damage (which it doesn’t, really) for balance reasons.
Zealot players complain about certain feats being absolutely required (which they are not) and their grenades being too weak (which they are not).
Now, you are back to claiming that veterans outperform zealots and ogryn in melee combat (which they do not).
For feats I would like more variety, but the same could be said for all classes. Really the only one I think is must take is the tier 6, if doing crit build take the crit one, otherwise take the double charge. Also whoever is saying Zealot grenade is weak is absolutely insane lol.
I main veteran and have the other three classes as offspecs and im comfortable playing at damnation lvl with any class
It just feels wrong when my veteran mows down the hordes and specialists faster than the oher classes in melee.
Ofc a veteran can use a melee weapon just not one that overpowered
All in all I got 600 hours played so while im not at the top when it comes to time put into the game I think I got a fairly good understanding of ogryn and veteran by now and yes a PS with cycler blessing is just way too efficient at clearing hordes and specialists in melee.
Remove cycler, add another buff that buffs something other than the insane dmg the PS have.
I dont know what that buff would be but im sure some clever devs or other players can figure that one out
This is the second time I’m writing something similar to this, but can we stop creating mulitpile threads for topics that have already existing threads with a lot of community engagement?
You’re right that power sword is still super strong. I think lore wise it should be pretty strong and do basically what it does, though. I’m torn as to whether flavor or balance is more important. I’m afraid that if the activated power sword doesn’t do what it does right now then it’s going to fail to satisfy that intuition a fan of a franchise would have when using one. With the recent patch I see a lot of axes and other weapons in the hands of veteran players-- so that’s at least a sign it’s approaching some kind of parity right? Without revolutionizing it and making it buff bullets or something like that what would you change specifically? Just reduce overall damage?
Then according to your logic, Ogryn and Zealot shouldn’t be able to hold their own against range enemies.
EVERY class has to be able to do the job. There is no this class only can deal with this and that class only can deal with that.
In all the posts and discussion around the PS it is always coming up that some people claim the Vet should not be able to use a melee weapon that can deal with everything like the PS, because he is the range class. Well NOBODY ever complains about Zealots being able to wield the Bolter and the XII Las as the more melee orientated class. Because noone cares. So could you people finally stop riding that same topic regarding the PS again and again and again? Because that horse is SO close to death already.
Just stop being salty that you have no Cyrcler. It is a T4 only perk. Crafting infinite PS to blue will NEVER bring you Cycler, because Cycler can only roll onto orange. And so many still not understand that and keep saying that Cycler would be impossible to get.
Oh I have the power cycler, been having that for a long time and theres just nothing that can compete with it, remove the power cycler and it would even the playing field between the melee wpns
Nah. People just get involved when someone says something very dumb and annoying (especially when it has been said many times before, and was just as dumb and annoying then).
Having one blessing as it stands now outperform all other melee options for the veteran seems like poor balancing, not an even close to even playing field internally for the veteran melee weapons or other classes.
Remove the power cycler and its a step in the right direction