Announcing Warhammer: Vermintide 2 - Versus!

At first I got a bit hyped. Now I’m not sure anymore. I would not be interested if this proves to be standalone for which you have to pay extra and download/store the complete game again on your hdd.
Also if it’s dlc and implemented into the core game it’s going to split the community again, since there’re going to be goodies in Versus if you own V2 and mybe vice versa. I don’t apply to this “collectors mentality” for which I am sure many gamers will, and some even just buy this to have their collection complete.
I can see Versus as a free or very cheap addon via a third realm aside from “offical” and “modded”. It might be a fun thing to add but nothing that really motivates me playing in the long run.

I like V2 a lot (playing several matches per week since release) not only because of it’s great atmo and very satisfying combat. I’m especially a fan of end-time scenarios where you fight against all odds. Even if you suceed, you loose in the end. Lore-wise we all know what will happen in the end…
This special atmosphere appeals to me since it’s a perfect metaphor for life itself. In the end we all die, no one’s getting out “alive” no matter what you do, etc…

I didn’t mean to get too philosophical here, but wanted to make a point: I have little interest in playing the winning faction/swapping sides because the atmo of this game feels very complete on it’s own. It needs enhancements like a new adventure/mission/more and deeper lore/maybe a new char/etc… since this universe is just so rich! Gameplay/engine/server optimisation should come beforehand.

For the sake of fun I would give it a go if it comes for free as an added realm like described before.
If it’s not free and standalone it feels it’s not worth the effort to re-pay, re-download a whole game for just a “gamemode” (!) that might bring in a bit of fun…

I really appreciate Fatsharks work for us, but Versus overall feels just like a marketing strategy.
Yes, we have very little information about Versus so far. So consider my opinion regarding this addon (?) may change in the future. For the better or worse.

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While I do agree with you that it likely isn’t the biggest long-term solution to keeping a massive player-base, it’s important to note that other games have based the entirety of their AAA gameplay on no-progression PvP. Some of the biggest games in history have had it (well, this’ll be too obvious a point, but L4D was entirely built on it and they somehow salvaged a second game out of it…).

I think it’s good to look at this mode as the same thing: this is a way to sit down with your friends and play a game you like and laugh. It’s not about atmosphere or being immersed, it’s not about winning every match: it’s about grabbing your friends and pulling off whacky hijinx that wouldn’t work in the rest of the game.

Imagine someone pegging a Shade Kerillian with a Gutter-Runner while she is stealthed! The AI will never do that, but a player could. Now imagine the Uber-doober 5 getting stomped only for the Rat-Ogre to say “wait, where’s their Kruber?” Oh, he’s 7 buildings away and almost at the end of the level making a run for it.

I can’t wait. Regardless of what happens, I’m willing to bet it’ll be fun :smiley:

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What a disappointment. It’s sad endeed, that you, Fatshark, can’t learn from mistakes of the other game developers, so you’ll waste your time and resources on that garbage mode instead of making the cooperative part of the game better. PvP modes in coop games always ended up broken and abandoned, just look at Killing floor 2 versus, Warframe conclave etc.

Yeah hum, they actually said it was made during “free weeks”, and they haven’t moved any ressource from the main game.
So maybe it’ll get abandonned, but it doesn’t mean it has wasted and will waste any coop pve ressource. And maybe it won’t, and then it’s all bonus.

(Not saying the mode is great tho, I’m not interested at all. But it’s not a terrible mistake from them)

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Or you know just let them do their things because a lot of ppl liked that mode and you know there is even 40k version of it and its hella popular its called space hulk

I don’t know why you talk about the SpaceHulk here, this one is way worse than Vermintide in many aspects, but we’ll see how many of that “ppl who like PvP” will be here in 6 months after release. Not much, i assume. I remember well, how it ended up in KF2.

How many “free weeks” could have been used to support the console game? No events this year, slow updates, and Christmas in April.

Christmas on April wasn’t on FS end, and I’m pretty sure the guys who worked on Versus aren’t able to work on consoles.
Making games isn’t only beep boop content delivered, and working in video games doesn’t mean you can do anything related to video games.

Plus, the whole concept of “free weeks” is detailed on the FAQ, and is NOT to simply work more on what they already do in all the usual times…

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…what?! You mean the other developers that added pvp modes which made their games way more popular long term?

I mean come on, the most obvious comparison with vermintide is left4dead, and pvp is what carried both the first game and the sequel. Heck you can still find matches of pvp pretty easily today in both of those games.

It’s fair if you don’t care for pvp mode, but it’s pretty clear this will be a boon to the games longevity.

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I Think its great FS bringing in pvp im not sure how often I gona play this but i will give it a try anyway .
Im not sure why ppl would have problems when pvp Players getting other Skins or stuff ?? I Think its ok to reward ppl Who buy and play this .
Im sure the stuff you get from this Mode wont make youre Charakter stronger and will just be cosmetic like bevore so you dont really need to grind a mod you dont like , anything else sounds a bit childish to me . I Think its great FS want to make comunity grow .

Bring new ppl in that maby give the game a try now cause there many ppl that dont want to play a coop only.
Nobody forces you to play this mod you still got youre coop game.
And for all those “cashgrab” coments i dont see a Problem FS Got bills to pay and they dont use Microtrans. So what ? you want more content ? Let them find ways to pay thier employed

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How is Christmas in April not on FS end? They’re the game developer. It’s completely on their end.

They’re paying people to work on Verses and Dreadlands. If they put that money into people to work on console, we’d have better console support. We had much better support on Verm 1. Verm 2 should have never been released on consoles if this is how they’re going to support it.

At this point, they need to just announce they’re ending console support and move on. I can’t give FS any more of my money until they show they’re going to give the game the support it deserves on the platform I play on.

We don’t have any developers working on Dreadlands.

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And I’m pretty sure they said multiple time (maybe not in the BEST ways, but still it’s communication), that the patch was delayed due to waiting on approval from microsoft, etc…
Aaaaand this doesn’t look like it’s on their end :slight_smile:

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I hope this means that you don’t have any working on Dreadlands because it’s already the perfect game! :smiley: I’m super excited to have the opportunity to play it, but I’ll reserve that gushing for a different category…

Fatshark are publishers only for Dreadlands, we will help with marketing and connections where we can and support them with some things, but the Blackfox team are developing the game themselves :slight_smile:

but sure, that’s for another thread :slight_smile:

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Curious, if a blackfox fought a fatshark, who would win?

Although I’m not exactly hyped for versus mode just like I’m not hyped for weaves. It will be something I will play a lot and I’m looking forward to it. Not to mention getting all me mates together for 4v4’s. You better have an option for 8 people to be in a lobby Fatshark lol. I obviously don’t have any issues with QPing into Versus mode, but I’d want to do some private games with friends.

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This ^
and dedicated servers ofc…

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Wow. Did not expect that.
Damn, this summer’s gonna be hot.

I thought Fatshark was doing publishing work, not having a fight to the death.

Also, the fox would drown I’m pretty sure.

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toxicity is an inevitability of PvP games, you just have to deal with it, or just mute/silence the salty/toxic bastard and move on.

games that have tried to hide toxicity just ended up even more toxic (ala overwatch hiding scoreboards for example)

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