After years, the Javelin is still not nerfed, and completely broken

[Max93]

@Ensrick

My statement was not an exaggeration, but a factual differentiation. Throwing axes and javelins are throwing weapons with endless ammo, but that’s where the similarities end. To imply that a nerf to javelins necessitates a similar nerf to axes is, in my view, extremely misguiding.

@NewNoise10 Throwing axe has half the cleave of the javelin with charged throw and no cleave at all with an uncharged throw. It can reach identical stagger breakpoints as well

Here you can look up the cleave:

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An ungor has 2,5 mass on cata and a gor has 7 mass on cata. That means a charged throw can cleave 5 ungor or 2 gor.