About bots again

[hollerbach]

@Spike_Nitros

Stopped using BH as a bot after this one, even though he’s pretty decent special sniper and boss stunner. Apparently the spinal damage caused him to get stuck in ult. No TPK, but the bot died five times before we reached the tome tower.

Related:

Warhammer Vermintide 2 - Bots ulti bug

When Kerillian (Waystalker) or Sienna (Pyromancer) charge their ulti (career skill) to kill a special enemy that is nearby but dies before they can cast their ultimate, they freeze with the ulti charging animation, without reacting to the enemies that attack them. They are only unlocked (except when wounded) when they find another target to cast the ulti (specials or monsters): [Warhammer Vermintide 2 - Bots ulti bug]

This bug happens on Waystalker, Pyromancer, and Grail Knight bots too.

@Spike_Nitros

Bots chased a special across the acid pool twice and you know how the story goes. TPK.

The boys decided it’d be cool to run after a globadier on the other side of the map while a troll with mixed elites were chasing me. TPK, obviously.

Please please please make reviving higher priority. Just killed a boss and no-one in sight barring this single flamer. Ultimately Bardin reached the flame rat after the two other bots had already been downed.

Fun fact: a single ratling gun is enough to completely shutdown a team of bots. Wipe, thanks to a single special

Running after ratlings again. Two out of three bots have sniper weapons but no intellect to use them.

Again, no intentions of reviving. This mentality has to go. Bardinbot is especially good at standing above you whilst blocking trash attacks.

Bots have always had a suicidal drive to chase after specials with melee weapons, and not using ranged weapons on them. This wasn’t addressed in Patch 4.2 (Bot Improvements patch), even if it has been an issue since the game’s release.

Bot suggestions to fix them and make them more immersive (possibly adding features)

Yep, bots not handling specials properly, chasing after specials with melee weapons, and not using ranged weapons on them have long been an issue since 2018. Related prior feedback posts: Jul. 2018 Aug. 2018 Mar. 2019 Sept. 2019 Jul. 2020 Apr. 2020

If Fatshark just removed the bots’ propensity to chase after specials with melee weapons, this will fix multiple bot issues: avoid facetanking long-ranged specials’ attacks, avoid triggering patrols, and prioritize reviving rather than chasing specials.

@Ghoth1ckov1tch

For example. I can’t believe the script that force the bots run for cover from Rattling’s fire was actually made to increase their survivability.

This script has exactly the opposite effect. As soon as Rattling starts shooting, the bots “escape” - and while fleeing, they receive blows on the back. The escape route is always very bad; if there is a ladder nearby - bots start climbing up and down.

This and most of the bugs in the original post were also bugs in Vermintide 1. Posting here a screenshot of the Vermintide 1 Bot Improvements mod’s settings:

Notice that it has settings for bots to not chase after long-ranged specials and to ignore ratling fire. Those were the workarounds for some of the V1 bot bugs (which still made it to V2 as evidenced by the posts in this thread). Unfortunately, there are no V2 mods that do the same thing.